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Texas Has Executed Another Black Man
Afro ^ | July 19, 2013 | Michael Graczyk

Posted on 07/23/2013 4:18:56 AM PDT by YourAdHere

Edited on 07/23/2013 5:30:40 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: YourAdHere

The act defines the man, not the color of his skin.......


41 posted on 07/23/2013 5:33:55 AM PDT by ALASKA (Disgusted......)
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To: BigCinBigD
"You murder somebody in Texas, and we’ll murder you right back."

Justified legal capital punishment is not murder!

And the headline is racist. Texas executed another tried and convicted murderer.

If only the justice system were not so corrupt that they would indict, try, and convict the traitors we have in the White House, Congress, the Supreme Court, and in the Pentagon.

42 posted on 07/23/2013 5:36:55 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: bert

Nope. St trayboy would have walked. It would only be fair and just. And boost his street/gangsta/thug cred when he facebooked about puttin’ some whoop ass on some creepy ass cracka’.


43 posted on 07/23/2013 5:42:46 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: Pinkbell
I don’t believe he would have been a threat to the population if left in prison for life. It’s interesting to me that the son of the victim believes he should not have been killed either.

Are we a nation of laws, or are we a nation of men?

I don't know the facts of the case, but the perp likely could have cut a deal by pleading guilty to take the death penalty off the table.

If I'm right, he rolled the dice and lost.

44 posted on 07/23/2013 5:43:17 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Carl Vehse

This is why we have a long way to go in race relations...this writer thinks the color of the criminal is all that matters..not the crime he committed and was tried for and convicted...just his color....until this writer sees a crime as a crime...race relations will never change for the better...


45 posted on 07/23/2013 5:43:58 AM PDT by Youngman542012
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To: bert

Had Zimmerman died, Trayvon would be dining with the Obamas.


46 posted on 07/23/2013 5:52:52 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: EricT.

His race has nothing to do with this—he killed—he made the choice to kill—and now he has paid the price. Other states should follow Texas and exicute those who do henious crimes—black, brown, yellow or White. Texas should exicute more!


47 posted on 07/23/2013 6:01:23 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: YourAdHere

Oh no! Won’t we soon run out of black criminals?


49 posted on 07/23/2013 6:09:35 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Pinkbell

We in Texas feel different.


50 posted on 07/23/2013 6:13:45 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: YourAdHere

Awwww....he prolly just wanted some skittles and tea.


51 posted on 07/23/2013 6:14:15 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: YourAdHere; BigCinBigD; MarineDad; EricT.; Venturer; bert; nuconvert; lbryce; V_TWIN; 0.E.O; DH; ...
I mean, we just saw another one of these psychopath prosecutors (Angela Corey) in action... You really want to give her a license to kill people and watch her kill people like George Zimmerman??

As a general rule I cannot support a death penalty in America at this point in time; too many ways it resembles giving the Ronnie Earles, Janet Renos, Scott Harshbargers, Martha Coakleys, and Mike Nifongs of the world a license to kill people.

In theory at least I've got nothing against hanging somebody like Manson, Dennis Rader, Paul Bernardo, John Mohammed...

Here's the problem: I'd want several changes to the system before I could feel good about capital punishment anymore.

1. Guilt should be beyond any doubt whatsoever; the usual criteria of guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt" doesn't cut it for hanging somebody.

2. The person in question must represent a continuing threat to society should he ever escape or otherwise get loose. The "bird man" of Alcatraz would not qualify, John Mohammed clearly would.

3. I'd want all career/money incentives for convicting people of crimes gone which would mean scrapping the present "adversarial" system of justice in favor of something like the French "inquisitorial" system in which the common objective of all parties involved was a determination of facts.

4. I'd want there to be no societal benefit to keeping the person alive. Cases in which this criteria would prevent hanging somebody would include "Son of Sam" who we probably should want to study more than hang, or Timothy McVeigh who clearly knew more than the public ever was allowed to hear.

Given all of that I could feel very good about hanging Charles Manson, John Muhammed, or Paul Bernardo, but that's about what it would take.

In fact in a totally rational world the job of District Attorney as it is known in America would not exist. NOBODY should ever have any sort of a career or money incentive for sending people to prison, much less for executing people. The job of District Attorney in America seems to involve almost limitless power and very little resembling accountability and granted there is no shortage of good people who hold the job, the combination has to attract the wrong kinds of people as well.

They expected DNA testing to eliminate the prime suspect in felony cases in something like one or two percent of cases and many people were in states of shock when that number came back more like 33 or 35%. That translates into some fabulous number of people sitting around in prisons for stuff they don't know anything at all about since the prime suspect in a felony case usually goes to prison. Moreover, in a state like Texas which executes a hundred people a year or thereabouts, that has to translate into innocent people being executed here and there.

But the kicker is the adversarial system of justice. THAT we'd need to get rid of, with or without any consideration of death penalties. The price we're paying for it is too high.

DA is often the first rung in the ladder of political careers and some of those careers are paved with the blood and shattered lives of innocents. Cases which are well known and easy to research on the internet include those of Janet Reno and her witch hunts, Scott Harshbarger, Mike Nifong, Martha Cloakley who almost became a US senator from Massachusetts, Ronnie Earle who managed to convict Tom Delay of being a Republican, that lunatic sheriff of Wenatchee Wa. who almost succeeded in having Wenatchee disincorporated when it could no longer buy insurance, the prosecutors in that hideous David Camm case in Indiana... there doesn't seem to be any shortage of people who should not be holding that job.

52 posted on 07/23/2013 6:17:57 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: YourAdHere
On Jan 31, 2001, Vaughn Ross shot Douglas Birdsall and Viola McVade in the head several times with a .38-caliber pistol,and them dumped their dead bodies inside of Birdsall’s car in a ravine. DNA evidence found in Birdsall’s car as well as evidence collected from Vaughn’s apartment were used to convict Vaughn of capital murder. The evidence is legally and factually sufficient to support appellant’s conviction. The murders occurred in an alley very near appellant’s apartment. Appellant threatened Viola with violence not long before she was murdered. Shortly before the murders, appellant told Liza to leave appellant’s apartment because he did not want her there in case anything happened. Liza also saw appellant wearing latex gloves, and a latex glove tip containing appellant’s DNA and Birdsall’s blood was found inside Birdsall’s car. Birdsall’s blood was also on appellant’s sweatshirt. Appellant incriminated himself when the police asked him about the murder weapon, and he incriminated himself to his mother. We cannot conclude that the jury’s verdict is irrational or clearly wrong and unjust. Points of error eleven and twelve are overruled. We will continue to put murders to death so if you don'r like it then oh well..Also we don't care if the murder is black white or green they will be executed..
53 posted on 07/23/2013 6:19:03 AM PDT by PLD (-)
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To: YourAdHere

creepy crackas!!


54 posted on 07/23/2013 6:20:43 AM PDT by Lockbar (The guy that fires the last bullet gets to write the history books,)
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To: YourAdHere
There have been a total of 10 executions so far in Texas, the nation's most active capital punishment state.

Virginia has some catching up to do.

55 posted on 07/23/2013 6:21:48 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: YourAdHere

56 posted on 07/23/2013 6:24:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: YourAdHere

Heading correction - Texas has executed another convicted murderer


57 posted on 07/23/2013 6:27:19 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: al_c

“THANK GOD WE GOT PENITENTIARIES!” - Richard Pryor


58 posted on 07/23/2013 6:29:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: varmintman

I can’t disagree with some of your arguments such as No doubt whatsoever existing.
I also see that some Prosecutors are incompetent and build bad cases.

I do not agree that execution should be out for anyone who is no longer a threat. The Muslim POS at Ft. Hood is no longer a threat as he is a cripple, but he needs toasting.

IMO a person given the death sentence should gat an entirely new trial 6 months after the first one.
A new Judge, a new Jury, and new Prosecutors.
If found guilty and given the death sentence after that trial he should be executed within a week.

Too many sit around death row with a shyster lawyer and get a new trial after 20 years, with half the witnesses dead, half the evidence old and half the evidentiary detectives retired or deceased.


59 posted on 07/23/2013 6:31:34 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: YourAdHere

Here is a rather unsympathetic (to the murderer) review of the case.

http://urbangrounds.com/2013/07/execution-ross-vaughn/


60 posted on 07/23/2013 6:31:45 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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