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Posted on 07/28/2013 1:01:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
All you had to do was go to Howard University in Washington DC and you go for free!!!! I don’t know why whites don’t go to Black Universities. Those are free for white students who are minority at those schools. Some whites do go for free but it is not widely attended by whites. My kids will go to Black Colleges if they cannot come up with other financial means. I pay for 13 years of Catholic Education for my kids (K-12) and that is it. The College experience is on them to pay.
RE: The administrator actually had the gall to tell my son he would have qualified had he been a minority.
Correction — he has to be a CERTAIN type of minority. Asians need not apply ( even when they are an ethnic minority even more minor than Blacks and Hispanics).
Would making student loan debt dischargeable in bankruptcy help?
Bump.....
because of the health insurance mandates... childhood has been extended until the age of 26, meaning you still have to report your parents income on student loan forms until you are no longer eligible to remain on their ins policy.
In other words, you've already served in congress?
“So a minority who isn’t necessarily academically qualified for college is given our money to attend grievance studies.”
Twenty years ago these tokens didn’t last very long. In intro-level “general education requirements” they were so far behind the real students that they rarely finished their first semester.
“It’s sort of a double whammy. #1 You don’t qualify for government help because you’ve saved $ and you’re the wrong skin color, and #2 you get to pay more because of all other folks who are getting a free ride.”
It is incredible that this is legal. Whenever my alma mater (a state school here in NJ) calls with their palm outstretched I tell them to take it from the minority students they schooled for free; I already gave my “donation”.
“The only kid they picked from her school out of 5 applicants was a party girl who was a double legacy. They also gave full rides to several black kids she knew online.”
Blacks are pushing to have white females removed from the list of “oppressed minorities” that qualify for freebies; the math just isn’t working out (between white females, all Hispanics, and all blacks getting free rides in school and jobs). White females will be dropped first because they (like white males) will just sit there & take it. FWIW, until the Catholic Church speaks out against this practice (Notre Dame being a Catholic school and all), I don’t give them any money (though I attend Mass with my wife & children regularly); I’m setting an example for them as well.
Thanks. From your description, I'm guessing the Ivy school probably accepted him as a token "poor white."
The elitists who staff the admissions office might even characterize your young man as an "Appalachian" (whether that really fits, or not) -- that appellation is fashionable in elite circles as signifying a white person who might be "deserving" of help from them, as an act of noblesse oblige on their part.
Ivy schools make a point of accepting at least one "poor white" into every freshman first year student class. This ensures that they can point to that student whenever they're criticized for their racial affirmative action admission policies.
Actually, no. If you look at the ratio of students per *real* faculty the students are being short changed. Universities use graduate students and adjunct faculty to fill teaching slots. Many undergraduates are lucky if they have a real professor for their large lecture classes.
OTOH staff is where the increase has occurred. Universities are under pressure to recruit certain kinds of students. A lot of money is spent on their recruitment efforts and subsequently the management of what every school needs to be competitive, e.g., financial aid, strong IT department, fancy dormitories, food courts.
shhrubbery!: “...as an act of noblesse oblige on their part.”
That got a laugh out of me. Your turn of phrase aptly describes the white liberals who mostly run the country’s power centers: education, media, and government. I refer to them as a paternalistic aristocracy.
napscoordinator: “I think you need to rethink you prediction.”
You make a valid point that tuition may not drop if government is removed from the education market. We don’t really know, because that market is highly distorted. What I do know is it will reach appropriate pricing based on the laws of supply and demand. Not only that, it will eliminate the immorality in the existing system, because some citizens are stealing from their fellow citizens in order to pay for college.
Don’t forget our over credentialed society, with government often leading the way, is another part of the problem. People rightly believe they need a degree to get a decent job, so they have no choice but to participate in the system as it stands. In some cases, they’re right. Some jobs really do require a college education. Some degrees, on the other hand, are just a means for fleecing naive, young adults.
The laws of supply and demand may be why the private high school you quoted is so expensive. They charge more because demand for their seats is high. There’s nothing wrong with that in my opinion. If their customers are willing to pay more for what they perceive is a higher quality education, that’s great.
Again, nothing prevents citizens from privately funding whatever charity they want. There’s a distinct, moral difference between demanding other people pay for your education and asking them if they’d care to contribute. Voluntary, private charity is the only moral way I know of to engage in wealth redistribution. Some people also call the free market wealth redistribution, but I’m talking about the charitable transfer of money or services between citizens.
Thanks for the clarification LJ.
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