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Don't Fund It! The Countdown to Obamacare
Don't Fund Obamacare ^ | 7/29/2013 | Senators Mike Lee/Ted Cruz

Posted on 07/30/2013 8:13:31 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

On October 1st, millions of Americans will be required to enroll in Obamacare and could lose access to their doctors and be forced to pay higher premiums and higher taxes. But there's still time to stop it. Republicans in Congress can stop Obamacare if they refuse to fund it.

Sign the petition and tell Congress: Don't Fund Obamacare!

(Excerpt) Read more at dontfundobamacare.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: countdown; fund; obamacare; petition
Please sign this petition and make it go viral.
1 posted on 07/30/2013 8:13:31 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: sheikdetailfeather

http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/


2 posted on 07/30/2013 8:13:55 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Bump!


3 posted on 07/30/2013 8:14:02 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
The GOP created ObamaCARE and is exempt from it.

it will supply them organs and care at a level
higher than all other Americans.

THEY WILL NEVER stop ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE.
Just look at Romney's grin.


What difference does it make?"


4 posted on 07/30/2013 8:17:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: sheikdetailfeather

OF COURSE congress will fund it... it means more political power for them

you could try to not pay for it... but they don’t care. even if tax revenues are down, they’d just print more and run up the debt. they EXPECT to run up the debt as they’re quite aware they cannot afford it (we take in $2t in taxes now... yet spend $3.5t. adding another $2t to the expenses every year isn’t expected to get paid for)


5 posted on 07/30/2013 8:24:59 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

If they shut down the government to stop Commiecare then by the second month the feral population will be on a murderous rampage. They didn’t take our guns away in time, luckily.


6 posted on 07/30/2013 8:25:00 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: RadiationRomeo

Mike Lee told Beck yesterday that the Republicans are afraid to shut the govt. down, but that is not necessary in order to defund Obamacare. He said if enough people sign the petition, this will pressure the Rhinos to do what the people want. McConnell is not on board right now he said.


7 posted on 07/30/2013 8:33:16 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: RadiationRomeo

Senator Mike Lee: “Tell them to fund the government, not Obamacare”

http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/07/25/senator-mike-lee-tell-them-to-fund-the-government-not-obamacare/


8 posted on 07/30/2013 8:51:37 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Senators Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, etc. get it!!! The RINO’s ilke John McCain, etc. don’t get it!!! Folks, if you have any backbone at all, sign the petition. Believe me....when millions of Americans sign and endorse this petition, even Democrats in the Senate and House will take note, and, while they probably will not vote to defund Obamacare, fear will strike them that they might be voted out of office!!! Sign and endorse this petition today...like right now!!! “Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country!!!”


9 posted on 07/30/2013 9:00:40 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
And for the RINOs whining that we can't do it, please see http://heritageaction.com/2013/07/defunding-obamacare-questions-answers-excuses-responses/

Defunding Obamacare: Questions & Answers, Excuses & Responses

 

POLICY AND TECHNICAL

“What do you mean by defunding Obamacare?”

Defunding Obamacare means attaching a legislative rider to a “must pass” bill (debt limit, annual spending bill, etc.) that 1) prohibits any funds from being spent on any activities to implement or enforce Obamacare; 2) rescinds any unspent balances that have already been appropriated for implementation; and 3) turns off the exchange subsidy and new Medicaid spending that are on auto-pilot.

“There is no such thing as defunding Obamacare.”

That is a false statement. Congressmen who assert this are either asserting that funding is not being spent to implement Obamacare (false) or that a defund amendment cannot technically be executed (again, false). Defunding Obamacare can be done, and it has been attempted by the House of Representatives recently. For instance, in 2011, after gaining the majority, the Republican House included such a defunding provision on the continuing spending resolution (HR 1) when the bill first passed the House. The provision was later discarded in negotiations with the President and the Senate, but the effort began with promise.

“What is the urgency to defund Obamacare now?”

On January 1, 2014, Obamacare’s new main entitlements—the Medicaid expansion and the exchange subsidies—are scheduled to take effect. Open enrollment for both programs begins on October 1, 2013, at the start of the new fiscal year. According to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), the federal government will spend $48 billion in 2014—and nearly $1.8 trillion through 2023—on these new entitlement programs. Also on January 1, Americans will be forced by their government to buy a product—health insurance—for the first time ever. Individuals and families who don’t comply will be penalized by tax penalties administered through the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). The Obama Administration has requested over $400 million in funding and nearly 2,000 bureaucrats for the IRS to implement the individual mandate and 46 other statutory provisions in the law. Within the Administration, the blizzard of Obamacare rules and regulations continues apace. Regulators have now written over 20,000 pages of Obamacare-related rules and notices in the Federal Register. Many of these regulations will increase the cost of insurance; CBO concluded Obamacare would raise individual health insurance premiums by $2,100 per year.

“Isn’t defunding Obamacare impossible because most of the funding is ‘mandatory’ (or on ‘auto-pilot’) and cannot be amended via the annual appropriations process?”

No. According to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service (CRS), the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the IRS, “will incur substantial administrative costs to implement the law’s private insurance reforms and its changes to the federal health care programs.” And while Obamacare provided $1 billion in mandatory implementation funding when it was enacted, HHS projects that this is largely spent. According to CRS, Obamacare “administrative costs will have to be funded through the annual discretionary appropriations.” Furthermore, annual appropriations bills routinely carry funding limitations to block all sorts of activities (for example, the Hyde Amendment), as well make changes to mandatory spending. These latter provisions are called “changes in mandatory program spending” (CHIMPS). Even if these riders were not so common-place, the stakes of so many provisions of Obamacare scheduled to take effect would present grounds for an exception.

“Isn’t defunding impossible because there is not a specific funding stream for Obamacare? Funding is embedded throughout the federal government and not specifically designated.

No. Congress is aware of all of the programs that fund Obamacare because CRS has provided such a list and the Appropriations Committees are well-versed in the funding intricacies of the law. However, a blanket prohibition against funding all activities associated with implementing the law is all that is needed to halt implementation. Each program does not have to be specifically defunded.

POLITICAL AND STRATEGIC

“My Congressman supports repealing Obamacare but not defund….”

It is wonderful that Congressmen support repealing Obamacare, but it’s not enough. The House has had numerous votes to repeal Obamacare, but the chances of statutorily repealing the law decreased once President Obama won a second term. Conservatives cannot wait another three-and-a-half years to begin dismantling Obamacare; they need to leverage current opportunities to defund Obamacare on “must-pass” spending bills.

“Since Obamacare is the President’s ‘signature achievement’ won’t he veto any effort to defund the program? Why should conservatives make this the focus of their anti-Obamacare efforts?”

There is a critical window of opportunity to stop the flow of funding for Obamacare from now until October 1, 2013, when the new fiscal year begins. It is during the same window that the President and Congress must pass bills to fund the government for the coming year. It is entirely appropriate for conservative members of Congress to use this opportunity to say, “No more funding for Obamacare!” and wage a serious and determined fight. If the Republican House girds for this fight—and wins the national argument with the urgency coming from a number of scheduled implementation dates and the law’s rising unpopularity—President Obama will be forced to compromise.

“If you don’t have the votes for a statutory repeal, why would you think you can get the votes to defund Obamacare?”

The Constitution grants the House of Representatives the ultimate “power of the purse.” If Congress chooses not to fund Obamacare activities for the upcoming fiscal year, the Obama Administration cannot act to implement the law. The President’s party does not control the House of Representatives, which must originate debt limit and spending bills to fund the government. And the House Republican Majority was elected in 2010, on the basis of its platform against Obamacare.

“Won’t adding a provision to defund Obamacare to a ‘must-pass’ appropriations bill lead to a government shutdown?”

Obviously, this will set up a major political confrontation with President Obama, but it is the sort of conflict that will allow conservatives in the House of Representatives to remind the American people that the worst aspects of Obamacare are about to take hold and a defunding rider is the only thing standing in the way.

If House Republicans insist on defunding Obamacare, it is possible that the Obama Administration will shut the government down. This would not be the end of the world, and it needs to be an option. President Clinton shut the government down in 1995, by refusing to sign legislation to fund the government. While most pundits in Washington DC believe that this was a catastrophic political failure for Republicans, it is a fact that the House Republicans maintained their majority in 1996, even with a popular president of another party on the ticket. And their willingness to not accept all of Clinton’s demands was crucial towards eventually balancing the budget and reforming welfare. The nation can no longer afford for conservatives to leave political leverage on the table.

“Shouldn’t Obamacare opponents focus instead on repealing pieces of the law where there is bipartisan support—for example, the medical device tax or the IPAB—in order to reinforce the fact that Obamacare is not set in stone and make its supporters take hard votes?”

Washington is filled with special interest groups lobbying everyday to secure a “fix” for the part of Obamacare that affects their industry. There is no “fix” for this law and every time Congress caves to a special interest and makes the law “better” for that group, a little less momentum exists for full and final defunding or repeal. “Fix” votes also give Obamacare supporters every opportunity to appear reasonable and willing to fix the worst excesses of the law. The grim reality is that if the opponents of Obamacare are not willing to use every bit of political leverage at their disposal—a Republican majority in the House of Representatives, mostly made up of Congressmen from safe seats with constituents who strongly object to Obamacare—to halt implementation of the law, then it will be set in stone. There is simply no more time, particularly as the massive exchange subsidies are made available and the Medicaid expansion takes effect.


10 posted on 07/30/2013 9:01:49 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

It does not matter. The fight against 0bamacare was lost with the treason of one man; Chief Justice John Roberts. When his vote led to the ruling upholding the constitutionality of this monster, it meant that it would become so entrenched in American society that it could never be rooted out. Just like social security. We are stuck with it.

By the way, his vote effectively wrote the epitaph for the concept of limited government and the Rule Law. There is now no limit on the authrority of the federal government to treat you like a piece of meat.

Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice, you spineles POS.


11 posted on 07/30/2013 9:03:40 AM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Also see http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/07/29/cruz-we-have-60-days-to-defund-obamacare/

Turning to the subject of Obamacare, Tantaros asked Cruz if it can be stopped.

“I believe that we have a moment, in the next 60 days, where if we come together that the American people can stop Obamacare,” he said. “Obamacare isn’t working. The wheels are falling off. The lead Senate author, Democrat Max Baucus, described Obamacare as a ‘major train wreck.’ The head of the Teamsters, James Hoffa, said that Obamacare is destroying the 40-hour work week that is the foundation of the American middle class, and even President Obama was forced to delay the employer mandate until after the next election because it’s going so badly that the Democrats are afraid of electoral accountability.”

Cruz said that Obamacare can be defunded entirely in the next 60 days, noting that he has launched a website, DontFundObamaCare.com, to get the American people involved. He said that 41 Senate Republicans and 218 Republicans in the House need to stand together and declare that they will not vote for any resolution that funds a penny of Obamacare. The continuing resolution that currently funds the government expires September 30, hence the 60-day window.

Cruz predicted that President Obama and the Democrats would blame Republicans for “shutting down the government,” which has many Republicans in Washington “scared.” He says the House Republicans should pass a continuing resolution that funds the entire government, except for Obamacare. The Democrats will then scream that the “mean, nasty Republicans” are shutting down the government, but the reality will be that it will be Democrats threatening a shutdown in order to “force Obamacare down the throats of the American people.”

12 posted on 07/30/2013 9:08:31 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I did, but I hope it’s not another group using this to fund their organization. I’m so tired of a million different places all trying to get you to send dough. So, far all I have gotten out of these are emails asking me to contact my senators/congressman and lots of mail asking for more money.

Haven’t seen any of them accomplish anything.


13 posted on 07/30/2013 9:15:24 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Thanks for signing the petition. No. They are not going to ask for money. Mike Lee and Ted Cruz are true patriots. They are senators and not representing a group, although they are sent there by the tea party to represent conservatives and they are doing a fine job so far. They just need Americans to back them such as with signing this petition.


14 posted on 07/30/2013 9:26:25 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

The corrupt government already does and will violate every rule, law, mandate, and the Constitution. Why would funding or not funding it stop them at this point?

Who would enforce this? Holder? Obama? They will ignore everything they want and enforce what they want. We are in a land where the rule of law is gone.


15 posted on 07/30/2013 9:29:16 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org -- http://defcad.org/)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Well.... as soon as I clicked on submit, I was taken to a page asking for money for some conservative senators’ fund, or some such.


16 posted on 07/30/2013 9:29:55 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX

That is strange. I was not asked for any money and have not heard anyone else telling me this. All you have to do is not send any money. This is not about money.


17 posted on 07/30/2013 9:41:48 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Pining_4_TX

All you need to do is put in the info requested, hit submit and disregard the funding request. You will then shortly receive an e-mail, asking you to confirm your signing and endorsement of the petition. You do not have to make any kind of contribution, other then signing and endorsing the petition. Takes all of about thirty seconds!!! (www.dontfundobamacare.com) Do it, NOW!!! And...mucho thanks to both Senator Mike Lee and Ted Cruz, true, loyal, patriotic Americans!!!! Polls indicate that roughly 53% of the American people are for the defunding of Obamacare!!! That tallies out to about 50-60 millions votes!!! Put fifty or sixty million signatures on that petition, and you can change the politics of America overnight. Let’s see who puts their money where their mouth is!!!


18 posted on 07/30/2013 9:59:00 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather; JLAGRAYFOX

It doesn’t bother me that much, but it happens every time someone wants you to send a petition to DC. Groups use these petitions to get people on their mailing lists.

I understand I don’t have to send money, and I’m not. We are all tapped out at this point. They will be wasting their time and paper if they send us anything asking for donations, no matter how worthy they are.


19 posted on 07/30/2013 10:10:19 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

AWESOME: Ted Cruz explains how defeating gun control is a template for how we can defund Obamacare

http://therightscoop.com/awesome-ted-cruz-explains-how-defeating-gun-control-is-a-template-for-how-we-can-defund-obamacare/


20 posted on 07/30/2013 10:29:44 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: All
(TWITTER) Amy Kremer‏@AmyKremer55m Don't miss ---> .@SenMikeLee @SenTedCruz @marcorubio will hold colloquy on #DefundObamacare @ 3:30pm. CSPAN 2 or http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/ …
21 posted on 07/30/2013 10:58:45 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

BTTT


22 posted on 07/30/2013 10:59:39 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Did you miss it? WATCH in FULL Ted Cruz at Heritage on Defunding Obamacare: A Matter of Principle

http://therightscoop.com/watch-live-now-sen-ted-cruz-on-defunding-obamacare-a-matter-of-principle/


23 posted on 07/30/2013 11:27:50 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Saw Ted Cruz on Fox News Channel on Monday afternoon. The guy is awesome!!! He makes Obama look like the lost soul he is!!! Ted Cruz is just what our country needs. Thank you...Texas!!!


24 posted on 07/30/2013 12:58:17 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I agree! He would make a fine president!


25 posted on 07/30/2013 1:18:53 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather; onyx

Signed. Thanks for the link.


26 posted on 07/31/2013 11:47:13 AM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: RedMDer
B T T T ! ! ! ©

27 posted on 07/31/2013 11:50:46 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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28 posted on 08/28/2013 5:40:38 PM PDT by Nachum (I am Breitbartacus!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Do you know if they have a one time vote lock on these. It seems like I voted twice because they keep giving out different addresses.


29 posted on 08/28/2013 8:14:02 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: sheikdetailfeather

13 Days left.
Ted Cruz is asking everyone to sign the petition.
Don’t fund it
His fact 31 : Just last week, an obamacare employee mistakenly released the Social Security numbers, names, business addresses and other identifying information of more than 2,400 individuals.
Previous Facts can be found at his web page http://www.cruz.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=345574


30 posted on 09/17/2013 9:51:24 AM PDT by sunny48
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