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Agents Raid Animal Shelter, Kill Deer Named “Giggles”
FoxNews.com ^ | 08/02/2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 08/02/2013 6:08:24 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

The president of a Wisconsin animal shelter is furious after the state Department of Natural Resources raided the facility with armed agents, detained volunteer workers and killed a baby deer named “Giggles.”

I’m furious,” said Cindy Schultz, president of the Society of St. Francis in Kenosha, Wis. “We are a no-kill shelter. And they killed her. They killed Giggles. I’m furious – furious.”

Schultz told Fox News an Illinois family found a baby fawn that had been abandoned by her mother. The family brought the deer to the Wisconsin shelter.

Staff members nicknamed the deer “Giggles.”

Wisconsin law bans residents or shelters from possessing any live wild animals without a license. Wisconsin does not rehabilitate deer so if they find an abandoned fawn, the creature is left to die, Schultz said.

“We took it of course and we made arrangements to transfer the deer to an animal reserve in Illinois,” she said. “The day before she was supposed to leave, we had the raid.”

On July 15 DNR agents and four deputy sheriff’s staged the surprise raid in what staff workers called a massive and “intimidating” show of force.

(Excerpt) Read more at radio.foxnews.com ...


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To: null and void

Some. I still think this was a job for at most 2 men.


61 posted on 08/02/2013 7:34:41 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: chris37
So you're ok with people who have been exposed to typhoid, but don't yet have symptoms working in your kid's school's kitchen?

At least with typhoid there is a test that will eventually show an active infection.

Chronic wasting disease? It's a prion disease like Mad Cow, Kuru or Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, no treatment, no cure, and more to the point, THERE IS NO TEST!

You would willing risk spreading a horrible, slow, nasty wasting disease to a safe area? A disease we think might spread to humans?

I'm glad you aren't in charge of public health.

Heck, you'd probably throw open the borders to anyone who could crawl across, no matter how ill, no matter what diseases they carry, as long as they vote for the right party, work for the right wage, or have lots of cute kids!

oh wait...

62 posted on 08/02/2013 7:37:21 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: GenXteacher
Agreed! But "our betters" simply can't risk a peon saying no.

It sets a bad precedent...

63 posted on 08/02/2013 7:38:56 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: null and void

Obama’s death squad


64 posted on 08/02/2013 7:39:35 PM PDT by LEO1911
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To: doc1019
right...they were just “protecting the environment” and “doing their job”.

I am certainly not one who is widely known for my compassion, nor have I ever been accused of being a bleeding heart.

The DNR is very much like every states Child Protective Services.
It's really hard and ugly to go after the very real and horrible abusers, but it's so much easier to justify one’s government paycheck by prosecuting to the fullest extent of the law, any technical violations by the passive law abiding people.

The laws will be changed.
Because people do blame agencies like the DNR, for lacking common sence.

The question is, when the SHTF, which side people like you will side with.
Not that it will matter to the outcome....

65 posted on 08/02/2013 7:41:19 PM PDT by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: LEO1911

Yeah, but there is more background. Besides the quarantine issue, in an earlier thread someone mentioned that this “shelter” had a habit of dognapping purebreds from their owners’ back yards, spaying or neutering them and selling them to unsuspecting buyers. Don’t know how accurate that is, but if true it gives some insight into what situation the LEOs were going into.

Still rather heavy handed, IMHO...


66 posted on 08/02/2013 7:45:18 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: null and void

OK but did they need to send NINETEEN LEO’s? Sounds like overkill to me.


67 posted on 08/02/2013 7:46:13 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: null and void
Schultz told Fox News an Illinois family found a baby fawn that had been abandoned by her mother. The family brought the deer to the Wisconsin shelter.

Setting aside the DNR raid, that Illinois family is responsible for the death of the fawn. The doe DID NOT ABANDON her baby. The family interfered with nature when they should have left well enough alone.

68 posted on 08/02/2013 7:51:04 PM PDT by upsdriver ( Palin/West '16)
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To: doc1019

While the little thing was sweet as pie, my issues aren’t with the deer being killed. It’s an animal. A non-domesticated animal at that. My issue is with the way that this raid went down. How about sending one, maybe two, officials to the shelter to explain the laws and the potential consequences (legal and disease) to the workers? They staked it out and donned body armor for God’s sake! Not only is this completely uncalled for, but it is a huge waste of our money.


69 posted on 08/02/2013 7:54:02 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: sarasmom

When/if the SHTF, I want to be able to eat deer harvested in my neck of the woods without having my brains slowly rot out from prion disease.

This fawn had the misfortune of being from an area that is infested with Chronic Wasting Disease, compounded my the double misfortune of being under the dubious care of an “animal lover” who wanted to ship it to an uncontaminated area.

We can back it up further and blame the bleeding heart liberals who couldn’t wrap their Disney-numbed minds around the concept that the is no deer daycare. A mommy deer leaves a fawn in a safe (as much as anything in the wild is safe) area while she feeds. A fawn alone is not a fawn forsaken.


70 posted on 08/02/2013 7:56:44 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: doc1019

Fair enough. That reply was NOT stupid.


71 posted on 08/02/2013 7:57:30 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: goodwithagun
How about sending one, maybe two, officials to the shelter to explain the laws and the potential consequences (legal and disease) to the workers?

And we are sure this didn't happen? Knowing how the press tells us everything and all. Not arguing, just wondering.

72 posted on 08/02/2013 7:57:52 PM PDT by doc1019 (Get our troops the hell out of the ME)
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To: null and void

Slackers, only a deer and no dog.


73 posted on 08/02/2013 7:58:24 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The only growth industries left under Progressives are government and poverty.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
OK but did they need to send NINETEEN LEO’s? Sounds like overkill to me.

Well duh! Nineteen is total overkill! They only sent 13...

74 posted on 08/02/2013 7:58:24 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist; null and void
did they need to send NINETEEN LEO’s?

See post 19 and the text of the story.

"July 15" is where the 15 comes from. The number of DNR agents isn't specified.

75 posted on 08/02/2013 8:00:36 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: null and void

Damn dude.

Take a Valium.

I am an animal lover. To be perfectly frank, I don’t really care what happens to humans.

I mean just look at this post you wrote me.

I’d rather spend time with a fawn with Mad Deer disease than you anytime.

Do you have Mad Human disease? Because it really seems like you do.

I sure hope it doesn’t spread to anyone else...oops way to late for that, isn’t it...


76 posted on 08/02/2013 8:02:30 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Fightin Whitey

It is in the link at post #37, along with the crucial Chronic Wasting Disease detail.


77 posted on 08/02/2013 8:03:39 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: chris37
I sure hope it doesn’t spread to anyone else...oops way to late for that, isn’t it...

Far, far too late.

I wasn't quarantined...

78 posted on 08/02/2013 8:05:04 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: doc1019

You bring up an excellent point about the press; however, I still think it’s heavy handed and expensive. Let’s say that they had contacted the shelter and experienced resistance. Let’s also say that the real response, not the news’ version, was only 25% of what was reported. That’s still too much.


79 posted on 08/02/2013 8:05:21 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

Good points.


80 posted on 08/02/2013 8:06:27 PM PDT by doc1019 (Get our troops the hell out of the ME)
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