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To: JCBreckenridge

Do you or do you not support a federal marriage bill changing the definition of marriage to force all states to recognize gay marriage?

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No, like most libertarians, I believe this a states issue, as is abortion.


311 posted on 08/03/2013 4:50:38 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Chickensoup

“I believe this a states issue, as is abortion.”

The fact that Kerry is issuing visas to America indicates that marriage is a federal issue and not a states issue.

States, last I checked, cannot issue visas. If gay marriage truly just were a states issue, then nobody would be able to get a visa claiming that he was in a gay marriage.

This is de-facto federal government recognition of gay marriage.

I told libertarians just like yourself that this was a reason why marriage is a federal issue. None of your compatriots addressed this point. Now, just a few months later, we see it happen.

Again, marriage has never been left up to the states. It’s always been a federal issue. Leaving it up to the states will not work, and the groundwork is going to be laid for the federal marriage bill to establish gay marriage in all 50 states.

So, we can count on your earnest opposition to such an attempt (which is coming, and coming soon?)


314 posted on 08/03/2013 4:54:22 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Chickensoup

It should have been left a Religious issue. Once they got the State to sanction marriage, they ceded control over the definition.

That was stupid IMO.

My religion States that a marriage is between a man and a woman. No legislation passed will change my mind on that.

I don’t give two tin sh*ts what anyone else does.


315 posted on 08/03/2013 4:55:19 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Chickensoup
No, like most libertarians, I believe this a states issue, as is abortion. The federal government must be involved in marriage to the extent that much of it's own laws and policies have to do with married people and families.

For instance the military, employment, immigration, and much more.

325 posted on 08/03/2013 5:06:48 PM PDT by ansel12 ( The difference between libertarianism and conservatism is the libertarian liberalism, not economics)
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