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To: Blood of Tyrants

One of the many reasons I oppose the WOD.

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Huh. For me, this is one of the many reasons I SUPPORT the WOD.

Civil forfeitures involving innocent people are rare and hardly happen in comparison to the real harm done to drug dealers and other criminals.


37 posted on 08/07/2013 7:55:22 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
How about convicting someone then taking their property, instead of the other way 'round?

/johnny

49 posted on 08/07/2013 8:19:14 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Civil forfeitures involving innocent people are rare and hardly happen in comparison to the real harm done to drug dealers and other criminals.

You obviously haven't been paying attention. I know it's a long article but you might want to actually read it before you make an ignorant statement like that
53 posted on 08/07/2013 8:24:40 AM PDT by slumber1 (My real name is Rusty Shackleford)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Read my tagline.


54 posted on 08/07/2013 8:25:34 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m sorry but I must disagree - our system of law is based on innocence until proven guilty. It is a law system that allows some bad guys to go free due to lack of evidence (an alpha error) while preventing as much as possible the conviction of innocents (a beta error).

If we start saying it’s ok to catch a few innocents if we get all the bad guys then we’ve lost our way.

Besides no loss of property should be allowed until conviction is completed as no proof of guilt has been shown.


67 posted on 08/07/2013 10:29:05 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It’s okay by you because they are rare, by your measure?

I would assert they are not rare by any measure, this artickle illustrates that and any abuse is wrong.

That many good eggs are broken in pursuit of a few is callous disregard for intent, probable cause and wholly irresposible with a consciouce and willful disregard for Constitutional rights and protections.

They enjoy wholesale immunity, privileges and the full backing of unlimited funds to pursue anyone they wish, while denying and confiscating means that would enable a common citizen to defend themselves.

They have the power to divest you of that which you spent decades acquiring under the rubric of “common good”, “for the children” and “God knows my heart”.

Right.


78 posted on 08/07/2013 11:55:41 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Civil forfeitures involving innocent people are rare and hardly happen..

How, exactly, do you know this?

85 posted on 08/07/2013 12:31:26 PM PDT by gogeo (I didn't leave the Republcan Party, it left me.)
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