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Freep Poll: Which city will be the next Detroit? Why?
August 7, 2013

Posted on 08/07/2013 8:31:55 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi

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To: SECURE AMERICA

You appear to be missing one of the key factors that did Detroit in.

The decline of the Detroit automakers is often overstated. Ford, Chrysler, and General Motors remain the top three car producers in the North American market. Further, if the decline of the Detroit auto industry led to Detroit’s demise then why didn’t Detroit’s suburbs which also relied on that industry for employment and economic stability suffer the same fate as Detroit proper?


41 posted on 08/07/2013 9:21:24 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: factoryrat

People live in a fantasy world even here at FR.

People say it can’t happen to their city because they’ve got taxpayers but that tells me that they’re basing their fantasy in exactly the wrong place. Virtually every city in the country has a growing debt and the only way to pay it down is to raise taxes at which point taxpayers will flee.

They think that a growing population means all is well but Tucson is in pretty bad shape despite a growing population because so many of those people are illegals (another chicago problem)

Chicago can’t go broke, they’re a transport hub but again it doesn’t matter one bit. Detroit is a major port city and the second busiest freight crossing on the continent and its still broke.


42 posted on 08/07/2013 9:21:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ronniesgal

Baltimore and St. Louis, because they are not part of the county that surrounds them, so have run unbridled corruption.


43 posted on 08/07/2013 9:21:54 AM PDT by expat2
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To: SECURE AMERICA

You appear to be missing one of the key factors that did Detroit in.

The decline of the Detroit automakers is often overstated. Ford, Chrysler, and General Motors remain the top three car producers in the North American market. Further, if the decline of the Detroit auto industry led to Detroit’s demise then why didn’t Detroit’s suburbs which also relied on that industry for employment and economic stability suffer the same fate as Detroit proper?


44 posted on 08/07/2013 9:22:02 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: toolman1401

Don’t forget about the 2 billion (with a b) sewer project that our masters at the EPA are forcing on the city. That is a big old bill that is not going away.


45 posted on 08/07/2013 9:27:00 AM PDT by Big Red Clay (Greetings from the Big Red State)
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To: SeeSharp
“It won’t be Chicago. At least, not as far as bankruptcy goes. About a third of the entire US economy runs through that town and there’s plenty of blood left to suck.”

Detroit was far more prosperous than Chicago in the 1960’s and 1970’s if you look at median income, home ownership, automobile ownership, etc.

It is crime, parasites and politicians that destroy a City.

The Daley machine, as corrupt as it was, kept Chicago from falling off the cliff into unstoppable crime and dysfunction. The Daley machine is no more. Chicago is doomed. The hard working, responsible and successful people are leaving. The thugs and parasites will remain.

The only question is how long will the State of Illinois and the Federal taxpayers continue to subsidize the crime and dysfunction in Chicago.

46 posted on 08/07/2013 9:33:22 AM PDT by detective
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
if the decline of the Detroit auto industry led to Detroit’s demise then why didn’t Detroit’s suburbs which also relied on that industry for employment and economic stability suffer the same fate as Detroit proper?

There are still a lot of automotive related jobs in the area. In fact many of those big 3 parts makers are also making parts for companies like Toyota. The last factory I worked in produced primarily Cadillac parts but we also made Jeep, F150, and Toyota parts as smaller jobs.
47 posted on 08/07/2013 9:34:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Link?


48 posted on 08/07/2013 9:34:26 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: ScottinVA

Nope, scottinva. Reading goes down long before Harrisburg; the politicians in H-burg will keep their own playground protected.


49 posted on 08/07/2013 9:34:56 AM PDT by Walrus (America died on November 6, 2012 --- RIP)
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To: expat2

I know about Balto!
and their mayor wants to challenge the beast to be our president.


50 posted on 08/07/2013 9:41:47 AM PDT by ronniesgal (First obama, now Weiner....Bill Clinton is starting to look like a good guy.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
Further, if the decline of the Detroit auto industry led to Detroit’s demise then why didn’t Detroit’s suburbs which also relied on that industry for employment and economic stability suffer the same fate as Detroit proper?

Also. Those suburbs got all the non automotive related businesses that fled the oppressive taxation and regulation of Detroit. Accountants, bakeries, construction companies etc. A lot of them are getting business from the city without being in it. There are plenty of Walmarts around the city perimeter but not in it. There is now one Meijer store in the city but even that is on the edge.
51 posted on 08/07/2013 9:45:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ronniesgal

Ex-mayor, I think. He’s now governor of MD, I believe.


52 posted on 08/07/2013 9:47:01 AM PDT by expat2
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Probably Pontiac or Flint. Both are Detroit-style hell holes.


53 posted on 08/07/2013 9:48:18 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Toledo, Ohio, where lots of Detroit’s refugees have moved. It’s a proud democrat, pro-Obama city.


54 posted on 08/07/2013 9:50:09 AM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

There are several candidates, but there will be many surprises when the GASB accounting rules kick in next year that will expose the true nature of pension under-funding in many smaller cities who, until now, have been lying to their voters in a big, big way.


55 posted on 08/07/2013 10:05:25 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: IbJensen

I am SO CAL resident

You may be right I picking my city too LOL!

LA


56 posted on 08/07/2013 10:08:39 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: MamaDearest

Toledo, it where the crack at.


57 posted on 08/07/2013 10:10:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: detective
The only question is how long will the State of Illinois and the Federal taxpayers continue to subsidize the crime and dysfunction in Chicago.

As long as they have enough population to dominate the state legislature. Illinois is not really a state. Chicago is a city-state with an economic colony surrounding it. Like New York.

58 posted on 08/07/2013 10:46:45 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: vette6387

Baltimore had several brilliant mayors. Theodore MCKeldin nominated Eisenhower and was his choice for VP. Party bosses poo pooed McKeldin and installed Nixon. We suffered the consequences of that bad advice for generations.
Another great mayor was Donald Schaefer. Despised by some, he was a powedr broker who oversaw great strides in Baltimore’s development. I counted both as friends.
McKeldin was very close to my family. Both hated the D’Alessandro clan. D’Alessandro once commentented to me, “You are brilliant working in the sewers.” He was referring to my work with homeless children in the 60’s.


59 posted on 08/07/2013 10:51:08 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

If Detroit’s bailed out it’ll be every city... They’d all love to dump irresponsible spending on the federal government.


60 posted on 08/07/2013 10:59:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories make bad law...)
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