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NH Mom Banned from Praying on School Grounds
CBN ^ | August 09, 2013 | CBN

Posted on 08/09/2013 3:28:00 AM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins
My take....

When my children were young (& yes, they went to public school) I belonged to a 'praying group of moms' and every week we would gather together at one of our homes to lift up the school, our children, the teachers, the administration, the school board, etc.

We also gently insinuated ourselves into the workings of the school......being first to volunteer for events, or helping the teachers....or even taking cookies on special days of the year...to show the teachers and administration we were there to support AND that we prayed for them.

However, if and when there were circumstances that alerted or alarmed us about the school..... the administration would hear us out, and usually take action to correct ....whatever was the problem....because we were visible & they knew we were serious.

We prayed constantly....

...and our little group was actually part of a larger well known praying group in our nation.

I realize schools have changed greatly since my children have grown.....but they need prayer more than ever!

21 posted on 08/09/2013 4:54:58 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: xzins

Putting on my asbestos...but I have to say I feel sorry for her kids. Teens can be ugly to one another and having mom (Lizarda?!?) day in day out, creating a scene can’t good for her kids.

I totally agree that she has religious freedom to pra in piblic, but does she believe that her prayers/intentions will not rise up if she does so in a less dramatic fashion?

Go ahead, flame me! I’m a mom, scorch proof!


22 posted on 08/09/2013 4:55:42 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...)
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To: xzins

God will still hear her petition, even if she prays privately - “in a closet,” as Jesus instructed.


23 posted on 08/09/2013 4:58:22 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Guenevere

I did pretty much the same. Home room mom; field trip chaperone; Library aide; Cub Scout and Girl Scout leader. I was always “around” but in a “helpful” (but to me watchful!) way. Youngest is 16 and I’m economically stuck in retail Hell because that was the only type of even parttime job I could hold and be a volunteer.

I have a one year old granddaughter, and my daughter is building a work from home career so she can do the same:)


24 posted on 08/09/2013 5:00:56 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...)
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To: Venturer

Please read #1


25 posted on 08/09/2013 5:02:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: ClearCase_guy; SES1066; txrefugee
Bills of Rights = Parchment Barriers. They are educational, but little else.

Scan the first ten amendments. How many are enforced?

Darn few of our enumerated, and just about zero of unenumerated rights are respected. The only ones that are, have citizens willing to secure them.

Scotus excised freedom of religion from the BOR, well, because it could. Since the states booted themselves from the senate, there is no countervailing force to stop scotus.

26 posted on 08/09/2013 5:02:45 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: LearsFool

Exactly. HE knows what is in our hearts!


27 posted on 08/09/2013 5:02:55 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...)
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To: GeronL

Paging Jay Sekulow...

NH state motto..’Live Free or Die’. I think that motto is what died instead.


28 posted on 08/09/2013 5:07:01 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: xzins

John Adams— Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.


29 posted on 08/09/2013 5:07:09 AM PDT by V K Lee
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

If that’s her religion then that’s her religion. It isn’t yours apparently, but the Founders didn’t want to run around policing acceptable religion. They figured we could be adults about it and allow differences that really don’t hurt anyone.

So, if she wants to pray out loud for the kids at the school, then leave her alone. What is it hurting in terms of real injury? All those kids and adults with other views is being subjected to is a study in comparative religions. That’ll probably be good for them in the long run to be able to know some things about other religions.


30 posted on 08/09/2013 5:07:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: who knows what evil?

“It appears that more local Christians are going to start praying on school grounds when indoctrination season ramps up at the end of this month.”

ILLINOIS Comprehensive Sex Education Cirriculum, which is already being taught in some Illinois public schools, is about to become law barring an unlikely veto by Gov. Quinn.

http://illinoisfamily.org/110files/uploads/2013/05/SEICUS.pdf

Why pastors, congregations, and parents did not stand against this perverse indoctrination is uncomprehensible.


31 posted on 08/09/2013 5:08:02 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: xzins
She should ask them to publicly tell her who the complainant is.
Without a name she shouldn't stop.
With a name, she should say 2 prayers.
:-)
32 posted on 08/09/2013 5:09:13 AM PDT by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: LearsFool

Jesus prayed in public. Paul prayed in public. Peter prayed in public.

But, this isn’t really about anything other than this woman and you (and others) have different religions.

Would you be more comfortable running around policing government enforced “correct” religious expression, or would you rather just live and let live and consider it a learning experience? That is what the Founders decided....free exercise of religion and no government approved religion.


33 posted on 08/09/2013 5:10:19 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: theDentist

LOL.

Confronted with her accuser.....that sounds vaguely familiar? /s


34 posted on 08/09/2013 5:11:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Jacquerie
I'm not disagreeing with anything you wrote, but I want to clarify what I posted earlier.

Theoretically, our Bill of Rights says that the government cannot establish a state church, and force citizens to attend or adhere to the state religion. The Constitution blocks government intervention in religious matters.
Obviously, this is not well-enforced.

But the "Freedom FROM Religion" foundation is a private organization which is attempting to get the government to stop people from praying.

This is not a question of "we not enforcing the Constitution". This is a war against the practice of religion. The Constitution does not sanction such a war.

35 posted on 08/09/2013 5:12:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: who knows what evil?

This is the correct response. When religious behavior is forbidden by law civil disobedience must be taken up by every Godly believer.
They are afraid of lawsuits? File lawsuits against them. Do not tolerate the obscenity of public officials refusing to allow prayer in public places.
Let there be a dozen more prayer warriors, then a hundred, then a thousand, until the forces of evil are drowned by a flood of Godly power.
What is at stake here is nothing less than the power of good vs the power of evil. These petty officials are too ignorant to realize that this blessed woman’s prayers are keeping evil forces at bay and protecting children from harm. Her faith can stop a thousand demons. What can their godless rules do in the face of consummate evil?


36 posted on 08/09/2013 5:12:42 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Prohibition of prayer CAUSED Sandy Hook.

No lessons learned

The enemy; pure evil is what powered the Sandy Hook massacer

It’ll happen again

They could get rid of all the guns, theoreretically, and there would still be an evil force allowed in to cause horror.

That’s hoe evil operates.

They deny its existenc.

Big problem


37 posted on 08/09/2013 5:15:17 AM PDT by stanne
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To: xzins

:-) Exactly!!!


38 posted on 08/09/2013 5:16:26 AM PDT by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: xzins

“Congress shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...”
— Amendment I, Constitution of the United States

“Congress shall make no law regarding an establisment of Christianity, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof unless some sourpuss atheist or pliable bureaucrat objects and the religion in question is Christianity ...”
— Amendment I, Liberal Constitution and Wrapping Paper


39 posted on 08/09/2013 5:43:15 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: xzins

They have the right to keep her off school grounds.
But would they do the same thing if it were subhuman savages chanting their pseudo-religious slogans?


40 posted on 08/09/2013 5:46:34 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism is contrary to human nature. Promoting liberalism comes from a strong hatred of self.)
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