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To: Jeff Winston
Now you owe me a great big huge apology for falsely accusing me of "twisting facts," deliberately "truncating quotes," and making a "false argument."

I 'owe' you nothing, particularly since the 'source' isn't even the Secretary of State that I thought he was. He was just a Senator...like Jacob Howard. You know, the one that co authored the 14th Amendment

"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."

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The doctrine of THOMAS Bayard, as US Secretary of State in the LATE 1800S, was that Richard Griesser, born in Ohio to a German father who was DOMICILED IN GERMANY, was not a US citizen. That's not an unreasonable doctrine. It is an ANTI-BIRTH-TOURISM doctrine.

So a German father domiciled in Germany is an 'ANTI-BIRTH-TOURISM doctrine', but a Cuban father domiciled in Canada can make someone a 'natural born citizen'?

Allrightythen!

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I've given a Secretary of State saying someone born in the united States to a foreign father IS a foreigner, yet you continue to tap dance around - failing to refute the pertinent aspects of the assertions..... and have the audacity to act as if I'm the one with the comprehension problem? LOL! How pathetic.

70 posted on 08/14/2013 5:55:01 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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To: MamaTexan
I 'owe' you nothing, particularly since the 'source' isn't even the Secretary of State that I thought he was. He was just a Senator...like Jacob Howard. You know, the one that co authored the 14th Amendment

Thomas F Bayard WAS a Secretary of State.


U.S. Secretary of State Thomas Francis Bayard points a rifle towards his successor, James Gillespie Blaine, who is climbing over the fence of "neutrality." During this time, Germany was expanding into Samoa, and the United States was trying to counter this expansion.

Term of office March 7, 1885--- March 6, 1889.

74 posted on 08/14/2013 6:35:34 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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