CHP encounter while concealed carrying

8-24-2013 | self

[TXnMA]

My guess is that she felt you showed concern for her own safety when you suggested that, for safety reasons, she remove both weapon and holster together.

It would take a real hard-nose not to appreciate being treated with decency like that.

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I have legally carried (licensed in two States) for over 20 years. IIRC, in that time, I have experienced three traffic stops. I keep my LTC/CHL in the same wallet slot as my driver's license and, keeping both hands visible at all times, present both to the officer -- with the LTC/CHL on top.

In all cases, the officer's response to my concealed carry was positive and cordial. When they asked if I was armed, and I replied in the affirmative, none of them even asked where my weapon was...

That's the way I'd want to be treated if I were a LEO -- and those three LEOs -- and others I've talked with -- tell me that's how they like to be treated, too...

YMMV...

[elpinta]

Yeah I know.
I always lived in Counties where you were looked at as a thug if you applied for a permit... While the real thugs just carried.

[CarmichaelPatriot]

This thread is useless without pics (of the officer).

I just renewed my Sacramento County CCW and its stamped with the restriction that I must disclosed that I’m licensed to carry and if I’m carrying upon any interaction with law enforcement.

Demanding a lawyer just escalates the situation. I’d much rather deal with one young female officer than to draw in all her coworkers who might just want to impress her with just how Alpha they can be.

[onceone]

It does, but you do what you have to do.

[mountn man]

They call you pea shooter don’t they!?

[arthurus]

Because that is a common occurrence. For many officers and in many jurisdictions once a legally carried gun is in an officer’s hand the owner will have to go to court at his own expense and has a chance of getting the gun back after a long time.

[stevio]

Hey! Are you the cop?

[Vermont Lt]

I believe that the law involved is that the LEO is guaranteed a safe work environment. He told her he was carrying. It is reasonable, based on the number of idiots that have shot cops during these kinds of encounters, that the LEO secure the weapon until the proper documentation has been verified.

I wonder was the SOP would have been if he had not mentioned it, and the LEO saw it.

In our training class we were told that we should not volunteer the information during a stop, as in most cases it would raise the tension unnecessarily. If they see the weapon, follow their instructions in a calm and immediate manner.

Sounds fair to me. I am not a big fan of LEOs in general, but I certainly appreciate their apprehension. Sometimes common sense communication makes life easier.

[mountn man]

Hey! Are you the cop?

HEY!!! No need to get derogatory. I was just having a "little" fun :)

[Starstruck]

I was stopped for a DUI one time. Knowing my blood alcohol was probably twice the limit, I pulled my gun and shot the cop. Since he had mucho drugs in his system there was no further investigation. This is my story and I’m sticking to it.

[Gay State Conservative]

Concealed carry? Yikes! I recently applied for a basic permit for a rifle with my town's police department,as required by Gay State law.My criminal record and psych record is absolutely clean,worldwide.Never a restraining order...honorably discharged from the Armed Forces (without even an Article 15,let alone a court martial).Under state law the local police chief has enormous latitude to deny even the cleanest,most straightforward application which is exactly what happened to me.I guess that's what I get for living in one of the most Marxist towns in one of the most Marxist states in the country.My understanding is that in order to get a license I must apply to the State Police which,I led to believe,doesn't often overturn a local police chief's denial.

[arthurus]

I got pulled in Texas in '84 with a gun visible in the car, The officer looked at it, said hmph, and, having stopped me for not holding my lane too well, suggested a place close ahead where I might pull over and sleep for a bit (after determining I had not been drinking).

We think the situation with guns is so much better now that states have passed CCW and such but 40 years ago, at least in much of the south, people did not worry about other people who were carrying guns. Now we have all these official "rights" but our freedom is more restricted.

[Fightin Whitey]

In Montana as in many other states your CCP is flagged to your vehicle tags and your driver’s license, so the cop will see you have the permit when he runs the numbers.

That doesn’t mean you have to announce that you are carrying but, believe it or not, in Montana and Idaho the cops (IME) are local enough and still decent enough to be trusted with the information and even to thank you for it.

I cover a lot of ground and try to stay just over the speed limit but you know how it goes. I think I’ve been stopped 8 times over the last three years, handed over my license and permit each time and/or answered ‘yes’ when the first question was, Do you have any firearms in the vehicle?

Out of those 8 stops I got one ticket and had one prick of a HP cop (Idaho, and he gave me grief but not a ticket) and from all of them I received thanks for making their job easier. Never once have I been relieved of a weapon—a couple cops (one in Spokane) told me to keep my hands on top of the wheel, where I had them anyway, and everything would be good.

Not saying it’s for everybody or every place but it works for me up here.

[stevio]

;^)

[onceone]

Living in CA where some frown upon the RKBA I wanted to make the CHP comfortable. Most of her encounters are not positive events. Very dangerous job.

[babygene]

“I always have a gun in my car or in my pocket and it would never occur to me to announce it to a cop.”

I don’t know where you live, but here in Idaho and I would assume it’s the same everywhere, they know when they run your plate that you have a carry permit. The few times I’ve been stopped they ask if I was carrying.

[3Fingas]

It is legal to open carry a long arm in Texas, but don’t try that in Bexar County. They will arrest you for disturbing the peace. It’s a crock. So, I make sure that when I am traveling my firearm is hidden even inside my car. Just avoids trouble for me.

We do have it better in Texas than in most states as far a firearms rights go. There are sever states, like Arizona, who have it better. We don’t have open carry yet for pistols like these states do. Personally, I don’t want to open carry, but we should have the right to do so if we choose.

[gitmo]

In my experience, it’s a bad idea to ask a female officer who is frisking you if they charge extra for that.

Been there. Done that.

[elteemike]

I have a Colorado CCW, and carry always and everywhere it is legal to do so...I’ve been stopped once since getting the permit, by a CO State Patrol Officer...

I kept my hands in plain sight, and handed him my CCW Permit with my CO Driver’s License and POI card...

He looked at the CCW (he’d see I had the permit anyway when he ran my license for wants/warrants), and said thanks, and handed it back...

After a few minutes of waiting while he checked me out, he returned my documents to me, asked me to slow down, and said “Have a good day, Sir!”...

I was not cited...

When I got my CCW, I decided I’d be polite, courteous, non-confrontational and above all respectful if/when this kind of situation arose...

I can’t believe there is ever only one right way to do anything...In my one case, the approach I used worked out...

“To get respect, you gotta give respect”...Tony Soprano

[IamConservative]

I wonder was the SOP would have been if he had not mentioned it, and the LEO saw it.

Everyone needs to understand their states law. Some states you are required to disclose if you are carrying. Some not. Also good to be aware that in most cases, the LEO will know you have a permit when they run your plate.