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How smart is Ted Cruz?
Washington Post ^ | August 26, 2013 | By Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 08/26/2013 5:42:30 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: C. Edmund Wright; Lakeshark; onyx; xzins
More proof that Jennifer Rubin is NO conservative.....

Like you, none of us needed any more proof. Jenny = Peggy = Kathleen = Nicole = Dana ... token MSM 'GOPers' loving the attention and invites to the elite DC parties.

221 posted on 08/27/2013 7:24:50 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: xzins

My daughter is a dual citizen too.

I want to show her the law that states she needs to renounce a citizenship to become president. Looking at the constitution, I can’t find it.

Please help me out.


222 posted on 08/27/2013 7:34:28 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER

I have found no such law. It would only be the convention of having one sovereign to whom you owe allegiance.

I’m fairly certain that Cruz did it so there would be quibbling.


223 posted on 08/27/2013 7:38:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: PA-RIVER

so there would be NO quibbling. Sorry...correction


224 posted on 08/27/2013 7:41:05 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: 9YearLurker

He is collectively naturalized, and is in law “citizen”.


225 posted on 08/27/2013 7:46:55 AM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: xzins

Permit me to hint, a Canadian born citizen can run for president of the USA.


226 posted on 08/27/2013 7:50:31 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER

The part about renouncing citizenship is right after the part that grants a woman the right to kill an inconvenient baby.


227 posted on 08/27/2013 7:54:08 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: xzins

A citizen of any country can become president of the USA, as long as they also hold US citizenship as well, from birth, and avoid the appearance of divided loyalties, by renouncing such citizenships when they run for president.

The constitution is living and breathing, my friend. :)
Is there anything else we need to add to ‘Shall be a Natural Born Citizen’ ??? Maybe “35, in dog years”.


228 posted on 08/27/2013 8:06:55 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Fresh Wind

Yes, the construction does occasionally fart as well.

The abortion clause, right to kill, would be such a fart.


229 posted on 08/27/2013 8:09:29 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: noinfringers2
just what does one expect of the SC action on the matter? Is the SC to rule that the actual words of the Constitution are not what the Founders intended but what they believe and should have been and stated differently? With the SC composed as IT is today especially with Roberts as CJ I have no faith/trust in their judgements on the actual words of the Constitution.

Chillingly thoughtful reply. What (or all) I expect is that the SCOTUS do its Constitutional Duty and accept an appeal on the issue of Constitutional Eligibility.

I have no idea how the debased black-robèd SOBs might be inclined to rule. Scalia, Alito, Thomas, (?)Kennedy and (?)Roberts (God Help US!) hopefully might yet be expected to offer an honest opinion as Americans. The Ladies? (Not one of whom should have gotten one Republican confirmation) Kagan is a Communist. Both Sotomayor and Ginsburg are at the very least statists and very Left. On the fence with fear and weirdness: Breyer ...

But take a case and rule they must ... win lose or draw. Because that is the Constitution. Even if my humble opinion suffers a reverse, it will perhaps embolden the electoral officials of the sovereign states, enabling them to better fulfill their constitutional duties and vet presidential candidates much more thoroughly.

After that last resort, IMNVHO, we are 25 years closer to CWII. The issue: The Right of Sovereign States to leave the Union. This time, instead of Slavery as the stumbling block, it could be "Gay Rights," or Federal taxes.

The decline of the Supreme Court is real, with Federal power deriving from the anti-state interpretation of the Interstate Commerce issue in Roosevelt's day. The Founders only wished to prevent internal tariffs and strict interstate border controls on business. They did not wish to use "Commerce" as an excuse for complete Federal control of the lives of the citizens of the sovereign states and the Republic.

In the coming CWII, that will be the underlying issue.

230 posted on 08/27/2013 8:10:39 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Don't miss the Blockbuster of the Summer! "Obama, The Movie" Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica! ")
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To: Windflier; Ray76

Ping


231 posted on 08/27/2013 8:12:45 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Don't miss the Blockbuster of the Summer! "Obama, The Movie" Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica! ")
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To: PA-RIVER

Auto spell is kicking my butt


232 posted on 08/27/2013 8:13:10 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER

It is somewhat a function of another’s country’s laws. We have anchor baby law that makes those born in the US a US citizen. Other countries do not have such a law, so children of foreigners in their countries are not automatically citizens of their country.


233 posted on 08/27/2013 8:26:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: PA-RIVER

It is somewhat a function of another’s country’s laws. We have anchor baby law that makes those born in the US a US citizen. Other countries do not have such a law, so children of foreigners in their countries are not automatically citizens of their country.


234 posted on 08/27/2013 8:27:31 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Fresh Wind

Permit me to hint, an adopted Indonesian citizen can run for president, then so can a Canadian born citizen.

It is my constitutional right to vote for any citizen from any country. And I’m voting for the Canadian born citizen. It’s my right, damn it! :)

Hear me now Ted Cruz, if you renounce your citizenship, I’m not voting for you. Changing citizenships is not like changing your underwear.


235 posted on 08/27/2013 8:28:56 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: xzins

Xzins, dear friend and fellow countryman, I see the Dual citizenship as a benefit.

If Ted Cruz wins the presidency, he could then run for president of Canada. Our president would then be able to manipulate their currency and have access to their weapons and military.

To vacate that opportunity is just silly.

We have been looking at this the wrong way. It is an
opportunity to be exploited!!!


236 posted on 08/27/2013 8:36:14 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: xzins
We have anchor baby law that makes those born in the US a US citizen.

Padre, not entirely doctrinally correct. We have a de facto pernicious custom ... not a law. Another reason perhaps, for the SCOTUS to start taking "citizenship" seriously in all its manifold permutations.

237 posted on 08/27/2013 8:38:45 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Don't miss the Blockbuster of the Summer! "Obama, The Movie" Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica! ")
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To: Ray76

What the he#$ is ‘collectively naturalized’ supposed to mean?

He’s a citizen from birth, and so no naturalization is required.


238 posted on 08/27/2013 8:40:37 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Read the law.


239 posted on 08/27/2013 8:46:35 AM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: Ray76

The law that you have repeatedly referenced on FR states that he’s a citizen from birth. If I’m missing something I’m happy to be enlightened, but so far you haven’t presented anything that describes ‘collective naturalization’ in any way.


240 posted on 08/27/2013 8:50:00 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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