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To: bluecat6

With all respect for Jim’s and others opinion/choice I look askance at at the ‘so-clear’ presentation as to Cruz’s eligibility for POTUSA. I see the arguments for such like a political ‘musical chairs’ when the Constitution for me has a much simpler and defined framework for ‘natural born’ when looking at many discussions of the matter from Founding Fathers to the 1800s. What bothers me very much is that similar pro Cruz arguments would be applicable to men or women such as the Muslim sons of deposed Egyptian Muslim Morsi who were born in the USA. Either father or mother would present the same dilemma. The Constitution references ‘born’ i.e. at birth. This is not two or four years after birth. I believe from my own situation that birth is vital to allegiance and the Founders were wise to this for the future of the USA. Birth does not guarantee future allegiance but it is a vital part of one’s heritage. It is a fact that Cruz was born in Canada to a Cuban citizen at the time father. I also believe the USA cannot and should not relax the Constitution one iota to accommodate someone with the status of Obama.


449 posted on 08/31/2013 7:40:56 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

EXACTLY.

This is not about Cruz or even Obama as individual persons.


450 posted on 08/31/2013 7:51:35 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: noinfringers2
"""I also believe the USA cannot and should not relax the Constitution one iota to accommodate someone with the status of Obama.""""

We agree on the eligibility status of Cruz.

However, this is war and our nation is about to fall into the hands of the Godless.

Let me ask you a question.

If ultimately the choice boils down to a far left liberal who is technically constitutionally eligible like Hillary OR Ted Cruz who you and I agree is not a NBC, Would you.....

1) Vote for Hillary because she is the only eligible candidate?

2) Stand by your principles, stay home and not vote?

3) Be pragmatic and in order to revive our nation, vote for Ted Cruz... the only true conservative who at that point would have the ability lead us out of doom?

For me the answer is easy..... We first need to save our nation. Then later, we can have our principles.

Consider this.... Most founders believed that slavery was not a good thing for our the country but they also realized that slavery was an issue that would likely derail the establishment of the constitution. So brilliantly, they authored the constitution in such a way that slavery would not be sustainable.

We need to do the same with the eligibility issue.

473 posted on 08/31/2013 9:10:01 PM PDT by Constitution 123 (Knowledge is I forgot wh but to Obots, ignorance is bliss.)
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