Putin plans Russian delegation to sway Congress on Syria strike

CBS News / The Associated Press ^ | September 2, 2013

[2ndDivisionVet]

President Vladimir Putin hopes to send a delegation of Russian lawmakers to the United States to discuss the situation in Syria with members of Congress, the Interfax news agency reported Monday.

Russian legislators Valentina Matvienko and Sergei Naryshkin proposed that to Putin, saying polls have shown little support among Americans for armed intervention in Syria to punish President Bashar Assad's regime for an alleged chemical weapons attack.

The lawmakers said maybe U.S. legislators can be persuaded to take a "balanced stance" on the issue....

[elhombrelibre]

America and Americans will outlast Obama and his idiotic ideas.

[Arthurio]

It’s revealing and tells me that Russia is impotent in stopping us if we decide to strike,

Who is this "we" that you speak of here? Because you can count me out of this one. But I am sure your dirtbag Kenyan president and his buttboys McLame and Grahmnesty appreciate your support.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

“Who is this “we” that you speak of here? Because you can count me out of this one. But I am sure your dirtbag Kenyan president and his buttboys McLame and Grahmnesty appreciate your support.”

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And I’m sure your guy Putin and his butt buddies in the Kremlin appreciate yours.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

Meanwhile, Zero is going to Russia to speak to a bunch of fags.

He's really got that vision thing.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Don’t you mean “a bunch of other fags” there?

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

Good point.

[elhombrelibre]

The same can be said and should be said, but I won’t side with Putin. I’ll reject them both.

[Conspiracy Guy]

So you’re in agreement with 0bama, McCain, and Graham? Do you believe that any of those 3 are trying to protect Israel?

[PieterCasparzen]

Goes to show Russia’s desperation to stop the strike on their ally Syria. I suspect, also, that a lot of the disinformation out in the media now is as a result of Russia’s intelligence service working to sway public opinion against any action. It’s revealing and tells me that Russia is impotent in stopping us if we decide to strike, contrary to all the people warning about Russia’s military. It also furthers my conviction that we ought to take Assad out, regardless of who takes over, since it is poses such a serious problem for Russian strategy. The people who will take over in Syria might still be our enemies, but it is likely it’ll be harder for Russia to have any influence over them, or coordinate them with our and Israel’s other enemies. Syria + Iran + Russia are making a dangerous triad in the middle east, and anything that breaks that up is a good thing.

July 25, 2007 WSJ article:

To Check Syria, U.S. Explores Bond With Muslim Brothers

This thread has a discussion that includes that article (post #13 has some quick highlights):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3060357/posts

Unfortunately, the US government, over a century ago, fell under the virtual complete control of the Anglo-American financial oligarchs, better known as new world order. That article even leaves out what NWO does not want revealed, which is that muslim terrorism is the creation of Western intelligence at the behest of NWO. Without the conflict terrorism provides, there's no reason to keep spending hundreds of billions on "protecting us". This is why NWO initiated their terrorism efforts after the USSR so-called "collapse", since the end of the decades-old "competition" would cause a collapse in US defense spending.

The US history we are taught is a complete sham, as new world order is the instigator of wars, and populations of nations (sheeple) and national leaders are used like pawns.

It's about time we stop.

[Rummyfan]

[Fzob]

Obama will talk to his fags, the Russian delegation will talk to ours ;)

That about sums it up. Putin was insulted by Zero and it's payback time. And I'm guessing but Putin is an odds on favorite to kick Zero's butt in just about anything.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

“Unfortunately, the US government, over a century ago, fell under the virtual complete control of the Anglo-American financial oligarchs, better known as new world order. That article even leaves out what NWO does not want revealed, which is that muslim terrorism is the creation of Western intelligence at the behest of NWO.”

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The NWO fantasy is largely promoted by Russia itself, with its helpers in men like Alex Jones and others. It’s pure projection of their own guilt and actions. In fact, world terrorism is largely a creation of Moscow, with many of the world’s top terrorists and leaders being directed from the Kremlin. Even Al’Zawahiri, Al’Qaeda’s number two (now number one), was alleged by men like Alexander Litvinenko (now deceased) with having been trained by the FSB.

All I see in the middle east, then, is a continuation of the cold war which never ended, since we failed to bring to justice the killers of the “former” Soviet Union who are given a place of honor in that corrupt country. I am forced with all my sense of reason to oppose anything that benefits Russia’s long term strategy, and benefits American survival.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

“So you’re in agreement with 0bama, McCain, and Graham? Do you believe that any of those 3 are trying to protect Israel?”

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Obama, McCain and Graham do not know what our goals ought to be, and therefore anything they do will always miss the mark on what should be done.

But just so you know, Russia, Iran and Syria are not trying to protect Israel. Israel is actually a barrier between Russia and dominance in the middle east, hence that old bear’s hands in creating anti-Israel sentiment across the world for decades. It is not a coincidence that the international communist movement, and its useful idiots in the west, have always sided with the Palestinians. Russia made a bet to energize fundamentalist Islam and use it for their own aims, seeing that there were more positives for it than negatives.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Confused sentence fix: *and to support with all my might that which benefits American survival.”

To replace: “and benefits American survival.”

[Cowboy Bob]

All those are basically internal, and the MSM is working overtime to keep the public in the dark. But, if Obama decides to demonstrate his manhood by lobbing a rocket into Syria, and the Russians retaliate by attacking a ship, or a dirty bomb goes off in NYC, then the MSM will have a hard time keeping this news out of the public eye.

There will be those who will rally around Obama if this happens, but if things spread and cannot be contained, people will eventually realize that Obama started it all. It will be worse if it all came from a “false flag” operation. Which I am certain it is.

[nikos1121]

I don’t know the latest polls, but I think it was 9% of us do not want us in Syria. Couple that with the fact that Putin, at least overtly is

1. Against the MB
2. The only one who seems to be ready to protect Christians
3. KNows our politics and if he sends somes savvy Russians over her who speak the language, they will persuade Americans to keep us out of Syria.
4. Is a rather popular guy with the media world wide.
5. Is heads above our POTUS in every way.

Who would have thought. Reagan and Jerry FAlwell are turning in their graves right now.

[PieterCasparzen]

The NWO fantasy is largely promoted by Russia itself,

The USSR/KGB could not fabricate an NWO "fantasy" that is based on facts of history that happened during the 1800's and earlier.

Regarding Yale Skull and Bones, it's membership could only be guessed at until fairly recently, when the daughter of a member made public some membership lists she had inherited. The actual Skull and Bones official membership book is certainly not a fantasy, it's official records of the organization.

The fact that FDR's grandfather, Warren Delano, was in opium trade is not a fantasy but a historical fact, that again, Russia and the KGB would have no control over.

with its helpers in men like Alex Jones and others.

Again, European elite finance was widely "not liked" in America in the 1800's, long before Alex Jones was born. August Belmont was a known representative of Rothschild interests in the US - this is historical fact. What has recently come out - as a historical fact - is that George Peabody, arguably the most powerful banker of his day, was also financed by the Rothschilds. George Peabody was referred to by Queen Victoria as "my favorite American" (historical fact) and there is a statue of George in the UK (once again - fact). Yet during his lifetime, Peabody was not widely known to be "fronting" for the British banking interests.

Other facts, like what businesses were at 120 Broadway in Manhattan during the Bolshevik Revolution, and actual corporate records of those businesses, etc., are certainly not fantasy. The records of facilities of Western companies like Ford inside the USSR are not fantasy either; they're just never mentioned in the media or in schools.

Key events from which it's not too difficult to draw some general yet inescapable conclusions from were reported in the New York Times around the time of WWI, such as President Wilson lauding the Bolshevik Revolution, and a group of Wall Street financiers travelling to Russia during the Revolution masquerading as a Red Cross mission. There are historical records of a long trail of Wall Street trade and investment in the USSR from 1917, through the 5-year plans of Stalin, through WWII - right up to the present day. Again, this comes from historical record, and it does not help to perpetuate the myth of communism being "against" capitalism. Why would communists want it revealed that they were not "for the proletariat" - but they were in fact functioning as overlords for the entire nation of Russia on behalf of monopolist capitalists ?

Communists nowhere ever publicly claim or admit to being fronts for capitalism - not even in America.

And yet - Armand Hammer was a billionaire capitalist of Occidental Petroleum who did extensive business for the bulk of the 20th century with the USSR - and his father Julius was a founder of the Communist Party USA. The schools and media of America simply neglect to mention things like this - ever.

So for communists and / or the current Russian regime, the more NWO is believed by people, the more the entire 20th century for Russia - and all of communism around the world - is seen as a big lie, where monopolists simply have a captive state and a captive market. While hopefully someday a Russian government will admit that the USSR was a creature of new world order, I don't think they're quite ready yet. Certainly the American government and elites are not ready to admit anything yet.

Antony Sutton (Stanford University) has done extensive research of source documents and found out many facts that are just too difficult for many to accept, but they're facts.

Here is an excellent video interview:

The Best Enemies Money Can Buy -- Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany.

[ballplayer]

Then attack Tehran not Syria,nice to play Ass hat Obamas games with Americas Sons and daughters.

[ballplayer]

Not with a-holes like Mccain running interference for the Muslim in the White House.

[Candor7]

EXCLUSIVE: Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack
Mint Press news ^ | August 29, 2013 | Dale Gavlak and Yahya Ababneh

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3061869/posts