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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SoFloFreeper; Jonty30; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
...the hard truth is that evangelicals are sleeping with partners to whom they are not married. Hundreds of thousands of them, with barely a word even spoken...

Does ANYONE have stats to back that up?????

Certainly sex outside of marriage is wrong and people are doing it, however, broad brushing an entire group is no way to build an argument.

22 posted on 09/03/2013 7:09:51 AM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
Is any church today free of sin? I think not. You could easily broad-brush the majority of society today regardless of what church they attend or not. There are few things which distinguish the difference between christian and not.

The US culture, and for that matter the entire Western culture, has shifted to where few, if any, acts are considered sinful. There is no shame any longer for behavior rather it's how can it be excused or justified in a secular society...gays and transvestites parade down our streets...(”They strut their evil before you”) with no public out cry.

Many people wear the title of one religion or another...it's fashionable now to dive into Eastern religions and label yourself as practicing such.....and be fully acceptable in US.

I mention these things because the sexual revolution is seen now as perfectly legit ‘by the majority’... who really have no sense of biblical truth. So it's within ‘all’ churches as well....there is ‘nothing’ which is resisting it......

25 posted on 09/03/2013 8:02:49 AM PDT by caww
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To: metmom; Lera; Springfield Reformer; Pan_Yan; caww
Certainly sex outside of marriage is wrong and people are doing it, however, broad brushing an entire group is no way to build an argument.

This is true, but what percentage would be more pertinent, while Scripture says it should not even occur once.

As regards defining "evangelical," Barna's criteria is superior, as it defines them according to distinctiveness which evangelicalism was defined by, as a movement against liberalism. By such criteria only 8% of Americans are evangelical, as with some other polls, the Economist estimated in May 2012 that "over one-third of Americans, more than 100m, can be considered evangelical," arguing that the percentage is often undercounted because many black Christians espouse Evangelical theology but prefer to refer to themselves as "born again Christians" rather than "evangelical." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism#Demographics)

In contrast, according to one pollsters criteria, Thirty-seven percent of all Christians describe themselves as born-again or evangelical; that includes nearly half of all Protestants (47 percent)" and "two-thirds of blacks describe themselves as evangelical or born-again Christians, double the share of whites who do so" (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90356&page=1), yet in reality very few, black or white, actually describe themselves as evangelical, but pollsters classify evangelical or born-again as one class, which includes 14% of Catholics who called themselves born again far more than evangelical.

But white evangelical/born-again people are listed as a class by itself by Pew Research, and for black evangelical/born-again Americans race and welfare considerations usually trump evangelical faith.

26 posted on 09/03/2013 8:22:30 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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