natural born Citizens: Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz

Legal Insurrection ^ | 9/3/13 | William Jacobson

[skeeter]

His minions ought to know better than to make a stink over the subject.

Oh they'll have no problem making it the most important issue on the table as soon as it suits them politically.

[Impy]

There is no such thing as “too early”, our enemies are planning their victory this very minute. 2016 began the moment Romney lost.

[Responsibility2nd]

Respect your wishes???

How can I respect anything when you are flip floppping all over the map here.

Am I wrong, or were you against Cruz being prez material based on the NBC clause.

Now that I made my arguments - you appear to SUPPORT Cruz in spite of the NBC clause.

Feel free to not respond to this post. But I leave here knowing I accomplished something; I enlightened someone today who erroneously thought Cruz could not be qualified to serve as president.

Good for me.

[sourcery]

“you are flip floppping all over the map here.”

No. My position of the issue has not changed. I have not “flip flopped” on anything. The only thing that has changed is that I no longer wish to discuss the matter on FR, because the site owner does not want his site to be used to say the things I would say.

[Impy]

Well since he IS a natural born citizen as the term is understood by 99% of people of that aren’t fruit loops.

The other 2 requirements are

35 years old

Lived in the US for at least fourteen years.

So there’s your answer. In your fictional scenario where he is “raised in Canada” he’s still legally eligible as long as he’s been a US resident for 14 years prior to Jan 20th 2016.

Now if you’re really asking would I WANT some (natural born) American citizen who’s spent half his life living in another country to be President and consider that person “fully American”, maybe not. My wants would not effect that person’s eligibility.

And that person is NOT Ted Cruz, the fact that Ted Cruz learned to go potty in Canada means JACK SQUAT, legally, morally, or in any other way.

[Impy]

Jan 20th 2017, I meant.

[JRandomFreeper]

The guy is trying to follow Jim's wishes, after they were made clear to him.

You might want to knock it off.

/johnny

[Cold Case Posse Supporter]

Yes that Herb Titus, a well respected Constitutional attorney with impeccable credentials. Titus in the article is right. You see, persons, eligible for the presidency, have no first generation ties to a foreign nation, whereas ineligible persons always do.

ALL statutory citizens are born with a tie to another nation by birthplace and/or blood, but NEVER is that the case with any natural born citizens who are only American.

A statutory citizen (bestowed by man’s pen) can never be a “natural born” citizen (bestowed by God/nature).

[Lakeshark]

The bigger and most important question is if Cruz was delivered by Caesarean section or by natural child birth, yes? I'm certain the framers had this in mind.......

:-)

[P-Marlowe]

Here is a respected attorney with outstanding credentials that basically destroys the flawed thesis of Mr. Jacobson. Dr. Herb Titus taught constitutional law, common law, and other subjects for nearly 30 years at five different American Bar Association approved law schools......

Titus: What’s important is to realize that being a natural born citizen is based upon the law of nature. Any natural law is based on a law of nature which is revealed by God. And the notion is that no one is accidentally born in any particular nation to any particular parent. You’re not born by accident, you’re born by design. And who’s the designer? Well, God’s the designer. So if you’re born of two parents, that is a mother and father, who are of the same citizenship, then you have been ordained by God to be a citizen of the nation of your parents. That’s why he’s a natural born citizen. So, there’s a design in this that goes all the way back to scriptural principles.

Interesting legal theory.

If this guy was the point man for the birther legal team, it is no wonder they lost every case they brought.

[Responsibility2nd]

Actually - No.

I told sourcery not to respond to me. He does anyway.

[Cold Case Posse Supporter]

If this guy was the point man for the birther legal team, it is no wonder they lost every case they brought.”

Wrong. The courts were corrupt covering for a usurper. Titus totally destroys Mr. Jacobson’s flawed opinion in the most easy to understand simplistic terms in 6 minutes.

[Cold Case Posse Supporter]

Here are educational eligibility facts for the presidency. Read up.

http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html

[Bikkuri]

Since when are they NOT hypocritical? :p

[Impy]

Indeed, maybe that’s what “natural born” really means. ;-D

[xzins]

I agree. Great article.

[sourcery]

I told sourcery not to respond to me.

You said no such thing. What you said was "Feel free to not respond to this post."

[P-Marlowe]

Titus totally destroys Mr. Jacobson’s flawed opinion in the most easy to understand simplistic terms in 6 minutes.

Did you actually READ Mr. Jacobson's "flawed" opinion?

[Godebert]

"Do you think anyone is going to read that wall of repeated crap after Jim zotted a birther yesterday?"

And so the purge has started already.....