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To: sourcery

” If I can’t make my full case “

You don’t have a case, that’s the problem. Your entire bullshit argument is to redefine the word “natural” to mean “born to two parents who are US citizens and born on US soil”. I looked in a number of dictionaries but I can’t seem to find that definition anywhere.

The fact is there is a “natural born citizen”, meaning someone who is a citizen by virtue of their birth, and there is “naturalized citizen, meaning they had to take actions after their birth to become a citizen. That’s it. There is no such thing as a “statutory citizen” or any other type of citizen as you internet lawyers try to define. Either you are a citizen at birth or not. Period.

Cruz was a citizen at birth, so he is a “natural born citizen”.

What lousy Americans you guys are for not knowing simple law and history, not knowing civics, and not knowing the English language. Just simply embarrassing.


121 posted on 09/03/2013 1:37:53 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: CodeToad
"You don’t have a case, that’s the problem."

The fact that you would launch an attack against someone who is disarmed out of respect for the property owner says all that needs to be said about who you are and the integrity of your argument.

126 posted on 09/03/2013 1:49:32 PM PDT by sourcery (Valid rights must be perfectly reciprocal.)
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To: CodeToad
Cruz was a citizen at birth, so he is a “natural born citizen”.

Under the Immigration and Naturalization Act at the time of Cruz's birth, Cruz had a right to U.S. Citizenship.

SCOTUS has opined Congress is not authorized by the Constitution to enlarge or abridge the citizenship rights of a naturalized citizen, i.e. they can't write a law, rule or regulation to have a citizen recognized as a natural born citizen because they are not authorized to enlarge or abridge the citizenship rights of citizen.
127 posted on 09/03/2013 1:51:24 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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To: CodeToad

Here is a Constitutional scholar who explains what a true natural born Citizen is. Pay close attention. His credentials are.

Part 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esiZZ-1R7e8

Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoaZ8WextxQ


131 posted on 09/03/2013 2:01:27 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: CodeToad

so what about a foundling of unknown parentage? they are a citizen at birth .


132 posted on 09/03/2013 2:02:15 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: CodeToad

<>Cruz was a citizen at birth, so he is a “natural born citizen”.<>

Uhhhh — No

He didn’t become an American citizen until his mother filed the necessary papers with the U.S. embassy in Canada according to the law.

http://www.foreignborn.com/visas_imm/start_here/4birth_abroad.htm

You should report the birth of a child abroad (outside the United States) to establish US citizenship. The birth of a child abroad (or overseas) to a U.S. citizen parent(s) should be reported as soon as possible to the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate to establish an official record of the child’s claim to U.S. citizenship at birth. The official record is a Consular Report of Birth of a Citizen of the United States of America, or Form FS-240. This document, known as the Consular Report of Birth Abroad, is a basic United States citizenship document.


144 posted on 09/03/2013 2:26:01 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: CodeToad
"What lousy Americans you guys are for not knowing simple law and history, not knowing civics, and not knowing the English language. Just simply embarrassing."

Your Alinksy tactics can't change natural law and the original intent of the Founding Fathers.

215 posted on 09/04/2013 8:53:50 AM PDT by Godebert
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