Posted on 09/06/2013 6:51:23 AM PDT by maggief
Headlines only:
BREAKING: Russia will help #Syria in case of foreign military assault - Putin http://on.rt.com/0yh5ju
DETAILS: Russia sells weapons to #Syria, we have strong economic ties. Syria is our strategic partner - Putin http://on.rt.com/0yh5ju
(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...
Obumbler will be begging Putin to please let him launch a few missiles at Syria to save face. He promises not to hit anything and the media promises to report on the great success of the strikes.
“Sorry - I don’t read “tweets”. I frankly think that any politician or journalist that relies on that “technology” is a moron.”
Which is why we keep losing in the infowar...
Maybe a couple of thousand will see a post here. 42 MILLION see a pro-Obama tweet from Jessica Simpson, plus all of the retweets, numbering in the millions.
Translation: I like walks along the beach and am looking for a nicely groomed woman with a trim beard to settle down with.
I hope you right but damage is done anyway.
This was all about saving face from the minute he opened his mouth. It just escalated out of control after the Brits said NO. Bambi didn't know how to handle it.
The Russians don’t have a lot of “Capable” fleet units, and they are deploying most of those right now.
But, that isn’t the point.
Putin is laying down his own “Red Line” and daring Obama to cross it. And for a limited dfensive action against the US Navy, what they have there is more than sufficient.
Curses, I was hoping that no one here knew Russian.
“Just how nucking futz is Obama, and will anyone in the General Staff tell him NO, and that he is UNDER ARREST?”
No doubt he has surrounded himself with “yes men” if that answers your question. BTW, you know the Russians have moved some of their submarine assets into the theater as well. Americans elected a man-child to be their leader. He’s cocky, he’s eloquent, but he is not as smart as he thinks he is. He has also surrounded himself with people that see things through the paradigm of ideology which is what makes them so dangerous. Obama is playing a dangerous game of chicken with Putin and Putin has a very strong hand. Notice that China has moved assets into the Persian Gulf theater and also the Mediterranean. All I can say is pray at this point that this does not go down, because it will quickly expand into a worldwide conflict.
“If Russia doesn’t do something now, fracking WILL change everything and Russia’s done.”
The Russians aren’t stupid. And they have been using fracking for years.
The Russians will have the following warships/combatants in the Eastern Mediterranean capable of engaging the US/French vessels there:
1 x Slava Cruiser CG
2 x Udaloy Destroyers
1 x Neustrminy Frigate DDGs
1 x Kravak Firgate FFG
2 x Nuclear Submarines (possible) SSNs
That’s seven vessels capable of modern engagements.
The US and France will have the following in the area:
1 x Charles de Gaulle nuclear carrier CVN
1 x French Horizon Class anti-air destroyer DDG
5 x US Burke Class AEGIS destroyers DDG
1 x Geroge Lyenus DDG
1 x FREMM FFG
1 x Lafayette DDG
1 x Rubis nulcear attack submarine SSN
2 x US Nuclear attack submarines (possible) SSN
1 x Ohio Class guided missile sub SSGN (Possible)
That’s 14 vessels very capable vessels and their aircraft.
In addition, the Italians have two destroyers and a firgate in the area and the UK has a destroyer, two frigate and perhaps another nuclear attack submarine in the area. Even though they will not take part in the Syrian attack, if it came down to fighting with Russia, because of the NATO alliance, those vessels would help the US/French. That adds another seven vessels.
In fact, one of the destroyers, the frigates and sub are already conducting rigorous anti-submarine “exercises” in the area.
The US has a major air base in Italy and major bases in Kuwait and Bahrain. The US also has two complete nuclear carrier battle groups with a total of 2 nuclear carriers and their aircraft, 2 cruisers, 6 destroyers and 2 nuclear attack submarines in the Red Sae and the Arabian Sea. That’s another 12 very capable vessels and a LOT of aircraft.
The Russian forces in the area will not enage these forces, or militarily try and shoot down their missiles and thus make themselves military targets, unless something else very bad happens above and beyond the Tomahawk missile strikes aimed at Syria.
The talk to the contrary ois:
1) Rhetoric and bluster.
2) Potentially aimed at letting the US know that it is going to give new weapons to the Syrains to help them “resist.” But that is a dangerous game because that vessel has not left the Black Sea yet and if it ventures in with combat weapons for the Syrians during the attack, it will make it self a target, and at the very least make the dock a target where they attempt to offload the weapons.
And even if they did successfully offlaod them, the Syrians will be weeks (if not months) in intergrating them into their own defenses...so they would do little good in the current strike.
Now, I hope the US House vote downs this “strike.” it is senseless and is purely political on the part of an abjectly failed administration. There are no US interests that will be positively effected by the proposed strike. There is only down side.
After we bomb Syria lets show um we’re the big global cop on the block and bomb North Korea too!
U.S.Global Police Department....
“Perhaps a good warning of such an event might be all Russian ships in close proximity to US ships high tailing it away from any US warships.”
That was my thinking problem. There are our ships and theirs and I think also a Chinese one, grouped off Syria’s shore and I couldn’t see using a nuclear weapon at that close proximity. What you say makes sense, the Russian ships would have to leave the area of the US ships and go far enough away to nuke our ships. But that would cause fallout in Syria and Russia doesn’t want to hurt Syria.
This whole thing is a royal mess, as a Marine would say, “It’s a cluster——.”
Tuesday is the day before 9/11 - Patriots Day, doncha' know. The same day, 9/10, Tea Party Patriots have scheduled events. (I'm pretty sure it is TPT but it could be another group - I'm 98-99% sure!)
Busy couple of days.
And if we really were to become involved in a wider war in the Middle East--perhaps even WWIII, as some have suggested--it begs the question: Is our current Commander-in-Chief up to the task of spearheading such an enormous conflict? (It seems like an especially pertinent question, given the degree to which he has already hollowed out the American military.)
These jerks just use any group that will curry them favor, they do not care about deaths unless they can use them to mobilize the living for their own personal advantage...period. They really do not care if WWIII starts as long as they have a security net ready for themselves.
Translation -
“ Russia will help Syria in the event of foreign military attack.
However, our president neves said anything about direct attack against US forces.
I'm rather hesitant to post sources right now as still have to memorize the ones we can't post from. So maybe someone else can find the report on this...but apparently it is true.
China said it was just to “observe” the buildup in the Mediterranean should their be a strike.....but nations at war make clear unspoken statements by how they maneuver their military louder than any words spoken.
The Chinese have sent vessels to the area as well.
...but plenty of Obama interests...
....continue the charade that there were no WMD's in Iraq...
...(they all ended up in Syria)...
...continue to cover up Benghazi...
...(we were doing some really stupid sh!t there)...
...continue to keep Obama-care out of the news...
...(that little time bomb is set to go off kinda soon)...
...continue to have his lap-dog media make the GOP a thing of the past...
...(you know the left wing media can't wait to report that the GOP blinked and was afraid to confront the Russians)...
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