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All Aboard! Freight Rail Giant Testing Natural Gas-Powered Locomotives
America's Natural Gas Alliance ^ | May 16, 2013 | ANGA

Posted on 09/12/2013 7:11:43 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer

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To: Axenolith

Try one ton of freight 300 miles on a gallon. That’s what diesel locomotives do.

Another benefit to LNG is there is no soot, so the lubrication system stays pristine and the engine will last much longer. The CNG Camry I drove for two years had motor oil that looked like honey even after 3,000 miles.


41 posted on 09/12/2013 9:09:05 PM PDT by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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To: ChiMark
Give me an ole LIMA anyday.

Here's one..

Slideshow here

42 posted on 09/12/2013 9:25:49 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: ChiMark

Liquid Natural Gas has been in wide use for more than a decade. Trucks, city buses, garbage trucks...fleets have been using it for years. Caterpillar, Cummins, Detroit Diesel, Mack and Navistar all sell heavy-duty natural gas engines that operate on LNG or CNG.

Distribution is not an issue anymore than gasoline. The one thing about CNG or LNG is that if breached it is a vapor that rises and dissipates quickly outdoors. NG does not puddle like regular petroleum fuel therefore doesn’t burn in one place. Natural gas must be at the right ratio (fuel to air) to burn. Only in confined areas like a house is natural gas a explosion hazard.

The trucking industry has used LNG for years and the conversion for Railway systems seems like a logical natural extension.

Obama would not mandate anything unless it is green, grows or blows through your hair. CNG has had many incentives but in recent years OB has done away with may CNG credits. As natural gas grows in popularity so will it with the tax man. Cha-Ching


43 posted on 09/12/2013 9:26:40 PM PDT by oxcart (Journalism [sic])
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To: ChiMark

“You are spot on. Farmers that buy diesel in bulk usually pay below $2.00 per gallon.”

Last time I looked off road diesel fuel (farm) was about $3.30 delivered...

“LNG is still a fossil fuel therfore limited. If we were togo all in we would have to import 15% to 20% of LNG by 2025.”

Fossil fuel? Limited? who would of thought?/s Import LNG by 2025? We have over a 100 years of natural gas reserves right now!

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/blog/earth_to_power/2013/04/us-natural-gas-reserves-hit-record.html?page=all

Dude! Google is our friend!


44 posted on 09/12/2013 10:17:52 PM PDT by oxcart (Journalism [sic])
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To: Paladin2
The numbers were not dramatically better than trucks.

That's not really true. Standard setup of Semi tractor w/ sleeper and 53' dry van weighs about 32 to 33k, leaving 47k payload. Best case scenario is 8mpg. Works out to 188 miles/ton/gallon.

Trucks have many advantages over rail, but fuel economy isn't one of them.

45 posted on 09/12/2013 10:28:07 PM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: ChiMark

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/chesapeake/link1966.jpg


46 posted on 09/12/2013 10:39:47 PM PDT by Pelham (Deportation is the law. When it's not enforced you get California)
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To: montanajoe

Only carriers and submarines are nuclear powered. All the cruisers, destroyers, and amphibs burn “DFM” in their gas turbines, boilers or internal combustion engines.
“DFM” is short for diesel fuel, marine.


47 posted on 09/13/2013 4:16:53 AM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: ChiMark

Limited amounts? There’s a 2 million gallon tank of it about 3/4 of a mile off the end of an airport local to me...


48 posted on 09/13/2013 8:29:25 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ...

Thanks Robert, very good points. Of course, the price of natural gas isn’t likely to start to spike anytime soon, not least because of the hydrates and clathrates on the ocean floor (about 7000 years’ supply down there).


49 posted on 09/13/2013 5:13:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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