Posted on 09/17/2013 8:57:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
For the last few weeks, House Speaker John Boehner has been trying to find a way to convince his caucus to vote for a bill that keeps the government open after Sept. 30 without picking a fight over Obamacare. But a minority of his caucus has been insisting on defunding Obamacare, egged on by outside conservative groups and a handful of far-right Republican Senators, most importantly Ted Cruz (Texas). This has been pretty annoying for a lot of House Republican members and staff. Jonathan Strong and Andrew Stiles of National Review got an anecdote out of a closed Republican Study Committee meeting yesterday:
Max Pappas, an aide to Texas senator Ted Cruz who was on hand, rose to argue that in the event the House and President Obama were at odds when government funding expired, Republicans could pass a bill to fund the troops and other core priorities. At that point, a woman rose, identifying herself as a staffer to a Texas Republican. Pappas, she said, was “not dealing in reality” and making everyone else’s life difficult. The staffer, whom two GOP sources identified as working for Representative John Culberson of Texas, went on to decry Cruz for holding events in Culberson’s district and telling his constituents that defunding Obamacare would be “easy.”
This is a key aspect of the Cruz-driven defund Obamacare push. With in the Senate, Cruz is essentially irrelevant. Any budget deal that comes out of there will be struck between majority Democrats and a number of more practically-minded Republicans, like Sen. John McCain (Ariz.). [ROFLOL!]
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...Whoever votes to shut down the government just to save Obamacare has the losing side of the political battle on this one. Shut it down and let’s see who caves....
It is important to avoid projecting one’s own enthusiasms on the broader public. The ACA isn’t popular, but it is more popular than denying grandma her social security check and the wives and children of soldiers in the AfPak theater their paychecks and a million other things that the mainstream media will seize upon. Whatever the echo chamber of FR leads you to believe, the country won’t be behind Cruz and Co. on this hopeless crusade.
Did you not hear POTUS yesterday taunting the “extreme right” to go ahead and make his day? A shutdown is precisely what he wants. It saved Billie Jeff’s chestnuts in 1998 and it will save this charlatan’s in 2013. Don’t fall for this trap again.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Sorry for the multiple posts. I’m having network problems.
House Republicans had best get his message and join him.
Go, Sen. Cruz!
A Cruz Missile pingy lingy list and I didn’t know?!? Please add me. Thanks in advance.
...I think irish needs to go to another forum, period....
There’s the old spirit of open discussion and pursuit of the truth: banish the un-mutual non-conformist! I forgot for a moment that FR is dedicated to groupthink.
Oh! The humanity! Ted Cruz is making us look stupid...
Egged-on by outsiders!!! He means: the American people.
Go, Cruz, GO!! If Obama shuts down the government, he’s toast!! Lame duck presidency!! Dead duck democrats. America will discover we can get along perfectly fine without federal interference. And if Obama the tyrant dares try to shutdown social security checks and military pay as he threatens, he will light off a people’s pitchfork and torch march on Washington like never seen before. Go ahead, Obama. Make my day!!
Done!
Exctamundo!
Then those House Republicans who are so “miserable” should not seek reelection next year, and step aside for people with testicles.
Appreciate it, thanks again!
You are wrong. When Gingrich was speaker and the govn. shut down, Clinton said, “The era of big government is over”. He then cooperated with Gingrich to reform welfare and that reform caused people to go back to work and get off the dole. It was Gingrich who turned the country around at that time.
You really need to go elsewhere. And, where do you get off saying “Whatever the echo chamber of FR leads you to believe,” Yes, you need to leave, like right now.
Not entirely. There are individuals who call for witch burnings every so often, but it's the same people over and over, and don't come close to representing a majority of Freepers.
Hey, pal. If you do not wish to support our fight against unconstitutional big government then please post elsewhere. Defeatism is not welcome here.
You can surrender your rights over on trueblueRINOsareus.com
I think there's also a high level of frustration that the GOP has devolved to being the tax collector for the welfare state, as Gingrich once memorably described Dole. There's also a hankering for the kind of historic clash that Frederick Wilhelmsen once ascribed to Christianity:
Christendom is honor and the fatherland and man with his back to the wall. It is the glory of lost causes and the splendor of certain defeat...
Will Ted Cruz turn out to be another Barry Goldwater? If a government shutdown ensues, we'll find out in 2014.
Bonehead funds it, he owns it.
FR is a group of conservatives so naturally their basic philosophy is very similar. If you think that is group think, then it is as far as conservative principles are concerned. If you have a problem with conservative principles, then you are in the wrong place - that is the point I was making.
Ted Cruz fits the principles of conservatism, but you think he is a flash in the pan, out for his own good, and he will destruct and harm Republicans. Republicans in congress need to follow him instead of be “safe” like you want.
This time is different - 0bamacare is not a mere wish for the statists, it’s ultimate control of the American people and if we don’t fight now, then when?
Will we win this battle? Maybe not but hell if I am going to be cowed by this corrupted culture and it’s hyenas in the Lamestream Media.
I do believe we are making a difference via speaking out - talking with friends, relatives and utilizing social media.
We have a champion in Ted Cruz and while I do not fawn over, much less worship, a mere mortal man, folks here in Texas worked their asses off to get him elected to do what he is doing right now. Hopefully we get more like him up there in the District of Corruption in ‘14.
A third party? Hell, we need a second and it’s coming to life now! It’s time to take a stand and call out loudly what needs to be called out on or else we will lose. Everything.
I’m 100% behind Ted Cruz, just wish he was our elected. We have Cornyn.
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