Posted on 09/18/2013 8:30:29 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
Can law-abiding citizens with guns combat mass shootings?
1. The Pearl High School shooting
Oct. 1, 1997 Luke Woodham fatally stabbed and bludgeoned his mother and went on to kill two students and injure seven others at his high school. Woodham was stopped by Assistant Principal Joel Myrick, a U.S. Army Reserve commander, who detained Woodham by using a .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol he kept in his truck, until authorities could show up.
Myrick stopped Woodham from going across the street to the middle school.
2. The Parker Middle School dance shooting
April 24, 1998 Andrew Wurst showed up to his middle school dance with his .25-caliber pistol. He fired it killing a teacher, wounding a second one, and injuring two students. The 14-year-old’s shoot-out lasted about 20 minutes. It was ended when James Strand, the owner of the banquet hall the dance was happening in, confronted Wurst with his personal shotgun. He ordered Wurst to drop his weapon and held the teenager in place for 11 minutes before finally getting him to drop his weapon, lay on the ground, and then searched him for other weapons.
3. The Appalachian School of Law shooting
Jan. 16, 2002 A 43-year-old Nigerian former student named Peter Odighizuwa arrived on campus with a handgun. There are different variations of the story, but according to eyewitness accounts, law students Tracy Bridges, a county sheriff’s deputy, and Mikael Gross, a police officer, ran to their cars after hearing gun shots and grabbed personally owned firearms. They approached Odighizuwa, ordering him to drop his firearm, he did and was subdued by unarmed students.
Three people were killed and three others were wounded.
4. The New Life Church shooting
Dec. 9, 2007 A former police officer from Minnesota named Jeanne Assam was at church when a 24-year-old gunman named Matthew Murray began firing at parishioners in the parking lot. Murray claimed two victims before Assam opened fire on him with her personally owned concealed weapon. After receiving multiple hits from Assam, Murray then shot himself.
5. The Trolley Square shooting
Feb. 12, 2007 Sulejman Talović killed five people and wounded four others in 2007 when he began firing in a public square in Salt Lake City, Utah. He carried a shotgun and a backpack of ammunition. He was eventually stopped in a shoot-out involving Salt Lake City Police Department SWAT that took place in a Pottery Barn Kids. He was cornered, however, by off-duty police officer Kenneth Hammond, who held him in position before authorities could arrive.
Hammond ran on scene after hearing gunshots fire out while having an early Valentine’s Day dinner with his pregnant wife at a local restaurant.
6. The Golden Market shooting
July 19, 2009 The details are murky but according to reports, a man entered a Golden Market in Virginia in 2009 and began firing a gun. He shot and wounded the clerk and then began firing at patrons inside. He ran out of ammo was attempting to reload when he was shot, wounded, and then subdued by a permit holder who happened to be in the store.
7. The New York Mills AT&T store shooting
May 27, 2010 Off-duty police officer Donald J. Moore stopped Abraham Dickan, a 79-year-old man who decided to shoot up an AT&T store in New York Mills, New York. Moore was in the store when Dickan entered brandishing a .357 magnum and a hit list of employees he planned to kill in his pocket. Moore heard Dickan’s gun go off, drew his own personal weapon, and killed Dickan on scene.
One AT&T employee was injured in the shooting.
8. The Clackamas Town Center shooting
Dec. 11, 2012 Two people were killed and a third was seriously wounded in Clackamas County, Oregon, when Jacob Roberts opened fire in a local shopping mall. Nick Meli, a shopper in the mall, drew a personally owned firearm on Roberts, who then retreated. Meli did not fire his weapon, for fear of striking bystanders.
9. The San Antonio Theater shooting
Dec. 16, 2012 In December of last year, gunfire broke out in a San Antonio movie theater. Moviegoers rushed to exits and ducked for cover as a lone gunman, Jesus Manuel Garcia, began shooting in a China Garden that spilled over into an attached movie complex. The San Antonio Police Department were fired at by the gunman and had to evacuate and seal off the complex.
The gunman was eventually shot and struck by an off-duty police officer, Lisa Castellano, who was working at the theater that night.
Very interesting information.
Yet, the liberals will say that more people being armed will result in more shootings. It doesn’t register with liberals that a good guy with a gun can save lives.
As bad as Ft. Hood was, it could have been much worse. The shooter there was taken down by a policewoman assigned to the post. Since we don’t allow weapons on military bases, she was the only person there who could take him out.
Also want to mention, that you just can’t count on police being there immediately, if an incident occurs. I’m sure minutes seem like hours, if someone is on a rampage. Police may well be on the way, but how much more carnage results while everyone waits for law enforcement to show up?
Yep...
"In the past 30 years, not a single mass shooting has been stopped by an armed civilian"
The statement is irrefutable. If an armed citizen stopped a mass shooting, the mass shooting did not occur. It is the logic behind the statement that is faulty due to its circularity. But it sure works at places like Salon. Aren’t they ever so clever.
The NappyOne
Armed civilians don't stop mass shootings; they prevent mass shootings.
When there are already a number of casualties, two things can be inferred: first, there wasn't a civilian available/capable of stopping it sooner, so there's unlikely to be one later; second, law enforcement are more likely to be on the scene, and civilians would have to back off and defer (properly, mind you) to the authorities.
Also they will claim an off duty officer does not count as a civillian gun carrier.
“Also want to mention, that you just can’t count on police being there immediately, if an incident occurs.”
The carnage on Monday would have been much, much less had there been any armed people working in building 179. The so-called “guards” were just cannon fodder for Alexis. They stuck out like a sore thumb and were easily “neutralized.”
Also, I had the opportunity to visit the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory a little while ago. Workers with ID’s and cleared visitors were loaded on a bus outside the secure area and we had guards with M-16’s and side arms get on the bus at the gate and physically hold up each person’s photo ID up to their faces for complete comparison. Doubt that this was happening at the Navy Yard.
It also should be noted that she took him down AFTER she was wounded.
It’s good to know these, especially when they won’t fit the activist agenda of a press that earned the privileges it has only by a tradition of being impartial and objective on all but the op/ed pages, long since forgotten apparently.
That study might make sense in a world ruled by the Engineer-King. In this world, disarming citizens while going soft on keeping arms away from the thugs goes a long way to justify the existence of so many pols and their lawyerly puppeteers, especially on the left. More circularity.
The NappyOne
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