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US plane in 1961 'nuclear bomb near-miss'
BBC News ^ | 21st September 2013

Posted on 09/21/2013 1:42:30 AM PDT by Mr Radical

A four-megaton nuclear bomb was one switch away from exploding over the US in 1961, a newly declassified US document confirms.

Two bombs were on board a B-52 plane that went into an uncontrolled spin over North Carolina - both bombs fell and one began the detonation process.

The document was first published in the UK's Guardian newspaper. The US government has acknowledged the accident before, but never made public how close the bomb came to detonating. The document was obtained by journalist Eric Schlosser under the Freedom of Information Act.

The plane was on a routine flight when it began to break up over North Carolina on 23 January 1961...

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: bomb; cold; nuclear; war
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1 posted on 09/21/2013 1:42:30 AM PDT by Mr Radical
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To: Mr Radical

It’s funny a lot of strange things happened that prevented nuclear war. Miracles I think.


2 posted on 09/21/2013 1:44:47 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: Mr Radical
Much ado about the pilot's armed/safe switch.

Which, fortunately for North Carolina, was on "safe" when the crash happened.

You see, the way it works was:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Goldsboro_B-52_crash


3 posted on 09/21/2013 1:58:39 AM PDT by cynwoody
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The inauguration of John F. Kennedy as the 35th President of the United States was held on January 20, 1961.

This near-detonation was 2.5 days into Office.


4 posted on 09/21/2013 2:02:21 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
The inauguration of John F. Kennedy as the 35th President of the United States was held on January 20, 1961.

Good thing the pilot hadn't thrown that switch.

Or Jack would have had much 'splainin' to do!

5 posted on 09/21/2013 2:06:09 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: FreedomStar3028
It’s funny a lot of strange things happened that prevented nuclear war. Miracles I think.

Nah. Just a switch. SPST, SPDT, whatever.

Of course, admittedly, given the stakes, it should have been a very robust switch! (not that it wasn't).

But, even if it had failed, and the bomb had gone off, there would not have been a nuclear war.

It would have been obvious, even to Jack (D-MA), that no attack was in progress, but, rather, that one B-52, one Air Force Base, and a large number of South Carolinians were gone. But nothing else. The requisite reports from the DEW Line of the invading armada of Soviet bombers would have been absent. So, Jack would have left the football in the hands of the Marine, and WW III would not have happened.

(Would have loved to be the fly on the wall at the Kremlin when Niki got the news, however).

6 posted on 09/21/2013 2:21:33 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Mr Radical
The US government has acknowledged the accident before, but never made public how close the bomb came to detonating ...

... except to Wikipedia (see the last paragraph in the history section).

7 posted on 09/21/2013 2:21:38 AM PDT by Zakeet (Democrats haven't destroyed your freedoms ... you can still visit them at the Smithsonian)
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.. except to Wikipedia (see the last paragraph in the history section).

The interesting part of your link is that only one of the bombs landed basically undamaged. If the hardware had been up to snuff, both bombs should have parachuted to ground without going off and basically intact.

But the second bomb impacted hard and ended up basically an earth penetrator, albeit unarmed (are you listening, Iran?).

8 posted on 09/21/2013 2:36:16 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Mr Radical

These type incidents also highlight why such a large number of nuclear weapons are needed. Had it been a real war, the bomb may have been a dud.


9 posted on 09/21/2013 2:43:18 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Mr Radical

Who’s got the Slim Pickens picture riding the bomb in Dr Strangelove?


10 posted on 09/21/2013 2:54:10 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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Who’s got the Slim Pickens picture riding the bomb in Dr Strangelove?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snTaSJk0n_Y

11 posted on 09/21/2013 3:05:13 AM PDT by cynwoody
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That photo must be a part of the movie set. I’ve never seen this shot before.


12 posted on 09/21/2013 3:08:33 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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That photo must be a part of the movie set.

I would say so.

At least the video is hilarious, if fatally fakey by modern production standards.

13 posted on 09/21/2013 3:16:01 AM PDT by cynwoody
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I’m not talking just about that incident, there were many incidents. False ICBM signals, communications failure, etc. During the Cold War.


14 posted on 09/21/2013 3:19:36 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: cynwoody

DR. Strangelove-—perhaps the best movie of all time.

A Stanley K. and Peter Sellers masterpiece!


15 posted on 09/21/2013 3:21:15 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: cynwoody

The special effects weren’t very special. But I love the movie. Peter Sellers did a great job. As was usually the case he stayed off script half the time. George C Scott did a good job also. But Slim reading off the contents of the survival package then saying paraphrase,... Hell a feller could have a pretty good time in Vegas with this stuff ... priceless.


16 posted on 09/21/2013 3:22:54 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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In it, he comments on and corrects Lapp's narrative of the accident, including listing that three out of the four fail safe mechanisms failed

Seems to me that that is why there were four fail safe mechanisms. Three failed, one worked, no detonation.

That's why you build redundancies into fail safe systems.

"One simple dynamo-technology low voltage switch stood between the United States and a major catastrophe."

And you want at least one of your safeties to be simple technology - because simple technologies are often the ones that work when the advanced technology fails.

17 posted on 09/21/2013 3:26:14 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

yippee ki yay Mister Falcon


18 posted on 09/21/2013 3:28:06 AM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: cynwoody

The Left was infuriated that Reagan was the president who most significantly reduced the US arsenal of nuclear weapons. I think he disassembled 30,000 of them. He invited the Russians to witness the disassembly and he provided money so that they could follow suit. (As I recall, they did.) But, I’m certain what he mostly got rid of were dinosaurs like the one in your picture. These bombs could only be delivered by huge bombers, none of which could by Reagan’s day have penetrated all the way to their targets in the Soviet Union. They were like having an arsenal full of harquebuses (or, blunderbusses, if you prefer to go more modern.)


19 posted on 09/21/2013 3:28:21 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: FreedomStar3028
I’m not talking just about that incident, there were many incidents. False ICBM signals, communications failure, etc. During the Cold War.

True.

But the current story shows that Schlosser knows more about fast food than he knows about nukes.

IOW, move along folks! Nothing to see here!

20 posted on 09/21/2013 3:31:19 AM PDT by cynwoody
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