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To: GilesB

Some trivia to rock your world.

Martin Luther, the founder of Protestanism, wrote a lovely screed called “On Jews and their Lies.”

Luther’s work contained a 7 point plan that was the blueprint for the Shoa and the resulting murder of 6 million Jewish people:

Here’s Luther’s steps:

1.for Jewish synagogues and schools to be burned to the ground, and the remnants buried out of sight;
2.for houses owned by Jews to be likewise razed, and the owners made to live in agricultural outbuildings;
3.for their religious writings to be taken away;
4.for rabbis to be forbidden to preach, and to be executed if they do;
5.for safe conduct on the roads to be abolished for Jews;
6.for usury to be prohibited, and for all silver and gold to be removed and “put aside for safekeeping”; and
7.for the Jewish population to be put to work as agricultural slave laborers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies

Luther’s tract was so populat among the Nazis, they passed it out during rallies.


61 posted on 09/23/2013 4:15:04 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
No - Luther was not the founder of Protestantism - it is a common mistake. He was a voice within the Reformation, which was much larger than he.

He is, today, the most famous of the Protestants, but was not even the driving force in the Reformation movement.

The Christian world was and is far larger than Martin Luther and the Pope.

What you posted of Luther's work is in direct contradiction of Christian Holy Scripture - but I won't expect a non-Christian to make the distinction. Luther's writings are often cited by Christians of all denominations - so your point is well taken.

This recanting of wrongs by “Christians” in ancient times to justify an irrational fear of Christians today would be no different from me hating Jews for their enthusiastic persecution of the early Christians. I don't. I wholeheartedly support Israel, and view Jews as God's chosen people.

However, I asked for examples of Christians persecuting Jews - and you provided it. The fact that I condemn such actions in the name of Christ would not have, and can not logically be expected to have, any bearing on the attitude of the larger Jewish community toward Christians.

But - the Jews, if they want to hold onto the old wrongs (and they have every right to do so) should at least acknowledge their early actions against Christianity, the central part Christians played in establishment of the current state of Israel, and the Jews’ own irrational faithfulness to the democrats today, descendants of the most virulent strains of antisemitism in modern history.

82 posted on 09/23/2013 5:32:09 PM PDT by GilesB
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