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Obama Urges Republicans to Drop Health Law Fight (NEVER! We are not a Communist Country!)
ny times ^ | 10/1/2013 | Jackie Calmes

Posted on 10/01/2013 11:53:45 AM PDT by tobyhill

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To: capydick

I don’t know if they could even get MSM, which includes Fox, to cover them if they did have the brains or the will to hold such a press conference.


41 posted on 10/01/2013 12:34:18 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: tobyhill
The American people never "voted for" 0bamacare - it was never on the ballot, and polls have run against it for quite some time now. These people voted for it. There are no Republicans in the group, it was passed without a single Republican vote:

Remember the smirking triumphalism of the Democrats who crammed this thing down our throats? And they lost their majority in the House as a result. That's how a representative government works. The people the American people DID vote for are now digging in their heels against a 2000-page monster never read by the people who voted for it. That's also how a representative government works.

Laws once passed are not written in stone, they are subject to review, as this one is. It isn't passing it.

Nevertheless, the idea that once in place the law can't be rescinded lest it "hurt people" is a clear indication that the Democrats know perfectly well they're creating a dependent class that will consider itself beholden to them and forced to vote their way lest they lose their benefits. There is something so cold and immoral about that that it defies description.

Kill 0bamacare. Now.

42 posted on 10/01/2013 12:35:11 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: tobyhill

The “few” were not that hurt by the failure to have health insurance coverage. They still had access to some kind of assistance in gaining most services. It just was not a “free pass”, they had to jump through a few hoops (ok, a LOT of them, sometimes), but assistance could still be found.

As for just about everybody else, they had already been prudent enough and with sufficient foresight to obtain either coverage for themselves and their families, or had made other arrangements for whatever health care needs that may arise, including adaptation to chronic conditions or drawing upon their personal resources to satisfy their needs for that purpose.

Health care is not a dedicated right conferred by the Constitution, nor is it an obligation of the employer. It is and always has been the duty and responsibility for the individual to secure his or her own good health, described as a state of not being ill or so badly damaged as to unable to function.

There are a lot of ways to throw away good health, and one of the most pernicious is to depend upon others to make sure somebody (or several somebodies) other than yourself are doing what should be done to avoid the consequences of bad behavior on your part.

Not every bad behavior ends with negative impact on one’s health, but poor prognosis on health is almost always because of some bad behavior which led up to the condition.

Which gets back to my belief that some 95% of the personal woe in this world is self-induced. The other 5% or so is because of getting the way of somebody else’s temper tantrum.


43 posted on 10/01/2013 12:37:09 PM PDT by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: MrB

They want as many people dying earlier than necessary as possible to lessen their time on earth and hence their chances for salvation. Abortion seems to contradict this premise, but was a necessary step in the degradation of human life. Anti-abortion is the one conservative position which has more younger adherents than previously.


44 posted on 10/01/2013 12:37:26 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: mrsmel

“They want as many people dying earlier than necessary as possible to lessen their time on earth and hence their chances for salvation.”

“They” probably don’t understand this motivation,
but it IS the motivation of their ideology’s founder.


45 posted on 10/01/2013 12:39:03 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: tobyhill

“We shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air. We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing-grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender!”


46 posted on 10/01/2013 12:39:21 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: MrB

Yes, the father of lies is their father, though they may not know it.


47 posted on 10/01/2013 12:42:28 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Billthedrill
The American people never "voted for" 0bamacare - it was never on the ballot, and polls have run against it for quite some time now. These people voted for it.

The people who voted for that piece of crap should be the ones on 0 bummer care. I'd like to see that big gavel stuck up pig lousy with the end of the handle sticking out.

48 posted on 10/01/2013 12:54:57 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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49 posted on 10/01/2013 12:56:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tobyhill

“As long as I am president, I will not give in to reckless demands by some in the Republican Party to deny affordable health insurance to millions of hard-working Americans,”

If I am not forced to buy something then I am being denied that something? What is not banned is required!


50 posted on 10/01/2013 12:56:49 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: tobyhill

But he would deny millions of Americans from the freedom to not have health insurance? Insurance is not health care.

What kind of American would force that on his fellow citizens?


51 posted on 10/01/2013 1:01:04 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: tobyhill

Bugger off kenyan... you know you will!


52 posted on 10/01/2013 1:07:21 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: tobyhill

(NEVER! We are not a Communist Country!...YET.)


53 posted on 10/01/2013 1:17:54 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: tobyhill

Let’s do the same thing. Have Ted Cruz round up some useful tools then claim they’re among the billions of hard-working Americans who have already lost their healthcare benefits because of obamascare. Might not hurt to bring out a little crippled boy (think Tiny Tim), a blind black dwarf lesbian, a grizzled WWII vet (complete with American Legion barracks cap) and maybe an earnest-looking illegal immigrant or two.


54 posted on 10/01/2013 1:28:19 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: tobyhill

Tell em to stand tall and fight!

http://www.speaker.gov/contact


55 posted on 10/01/2013 1:39:02 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: tobyhill

Sorry to say Republicans don’t have the guts or the backbone to stand against this BS. They will fold, they always do.


56 posted on 10/01/2013 1:50:35 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: tobyhill
No way. We already know how this ends.

Epic FAIL


57 posted on 10/01/2013 1:56:55 PM PDT by Justa
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To: tobyhill
Poor, poor, doofus.


58 posted on 10/01/2013 2:00:18 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
I'm seeing children being murdered by the state in Europe. It's already happening there.

The second Amendment was created for a reason. Under no circumstances should conservatives EVER give in to pressure to give that up. You are better off losing your life savings then losing your only means to protect your family from Obama's evil murderous power.
59 posted on 10/01/2013 2:16:58 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: jsanders2001
The message about what their real intentions are needs to be heard by every citizen in the U.S. that is too stupid to figure it out on their own.

The reelection of this idiot proved that we have an entire nation of idiots. If we fail to fight back against Obama then it will be more rational to flee the country for a more productive society than stay here and live in crushing poverty. Who in their right mind would work their arses off and miss the formative years of their children's lives just so that they can appease the insatiable lust of an ungrateful and worthless leftist mob? I refuse!
60 posted on 10/01/2013 2:21:40 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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