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Obamacare can be defunded without Senate approval
The Examiner ^ | 10/2/13 | Christopher Collins

Posted on 10/03/2013 3:32:21 AM PDT by blueyon

When the House passed legislation to defund ObamaCare but would keep the government running through mid-December, the Senate, led by Senate Majority Leader, Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) stated that they would not budge on Obamacare and the legislation was defeated.

On Monday, Dr. Harold Pease, an expert on the United States Constitution, stated that the authority in dealing with Obamacare funding belongs to the U.S. House, not the U.S. Senate and that the House is doing this all wrong.

Pease said, “Everything hinged upon funding which was given exclusively to the House of Representatives, the only power that they alone had.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aca; boehner; constitution; corruption; coup; democrats; govtabuse; mediabias; nobamacare; obama; obamacare; scotus; shutitdownfunding; tedcruz; tyranny
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To: Graewoulf

Very important thread, Graewoulf—thanks for the ping.


51 posted on 10/03/2013 7:07:18 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: blueyon

If Obamacare is really funded by a tax, as ruled by the USSC, then the House can just vote to repeal any taxes that are assessed on Obamacare. Case closed.


52 posted on 10/03/2013 7:31:21 AM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Hey Obama! It's all your fault now, you own it.)
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To: Vendome
EVERYTHING about this monstrosity has been irregular, over and above proper protocol and completely contrary to established rules!

EVERYTHING!!!!

It AIN'T law and should NEVER have got to this place!

53 posted on 10/03/2013 7:39:48 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: blueyon
A little refresher or two....

SCOTUS Upholds ObamaCare Mandate As Tax Even Though It’s Not a Tax

If the Health Care Law Constitutes a Tax, Does the Court Have Jurisdiction?
54 posted on 10/03/2013 7:40:18 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: SMARTY
EVERYTHING about this monstrosity has been irregular, over and above proper protocol and completely contrary to established rules!

In other countries the little people would be marching in the streets. Our clown king is lucky we are so well behaved, but it is time to stop that behavior.
55 posted on 10/03/2013 7:41:59 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

Yes...and marching in the streets is what people do when they have NO representation and NO voice in their government!

WE are only permitted the ILLUSION of self-government and this has been going on for a long time.

“O” is the guy who came along and ‘palyed it like it laid’!


56 posted on 10/03/2013 7:50:18 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: Graewoulf; All
Sent to my Rep and Boehner.

Just saw a wonderful commercial about this...and how the House IS sending separate bills to the Senate/0 and that Dims REFUSE to fund them. It's paid for by Senate Conservatives/DontFundIt...they are doing the Lord's work on this.

57 posted on 10/03/2013 7:56:42 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: NonValueAdded

Roberts will probably say that it “technically” originated in the House so everything’s okay.

I believe there’s a lawsuit winding its way through the lower courts right now.


58 posted on 10/03/2013 8:16:33 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: Jane Long

If this story has merit and it sounds like it does, we need to refer this Pease article from the Examiner to Cruz, DRUDGE, Lee, Rand Paul and all conservative media and all Tea Party orgs., and hit the phones again.


59 posted on 10/03/2013 8:17:41 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Graewoulf

This Pease story is shoe leather material if it has merit, and Cruz needs to take a look at it, and lead the sale, door to door, so to speak.

Eric has a nice Lee/Cruz defense up, at the top of the page, over on hotair. I can’t post from my tablet.

Thx for the ping. Can this Pease column make the sidebar?


60 posted on 10/03/2013 8:24:31 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Deo volente

That’s one heck of a long and winding road!


61 posted on 10/03/2013 8:27:50 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Occupy the DC Mall - take back the monuments)
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To: Graewoulf

Thanks for the ping!


62 posted on 10/03/2013 8:33:48 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: blueyon
Obamacare can be defunded without Senate approval

Of COURSE!

I think that Obama knows how to use an EO.

63 posted on 10/03/2013 8:37:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: blueyon

Few in Congress venture out of their BANKS, BROTHELS,
and SEC-LAW-IMPERMEABLE phones, to take time read
the Constitution.

Fewer have read it.


64 posted on 10/03/2013 8:42:39 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: blueyon

Nonsense and poor thinking. The Constitution gives the House the “power of the purse”, but it also gives the Senate and the President a say.

Let’s not pursue polies of momentary convenience. We want a Constitutional Republic, not a banana one.


65 posted on 10/03/2013 9:16:23 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: butterdezillion; Ironfocus
The way Obama is implementing Obamacare reminds me of his actions when his elgibility was questioned. Remember when he started the “Office of the President-elect”? Must be part of his MO.
66 posted on 10/03/2013 9:21:52 AM PDT by Balata
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To: blueyon

Problem is that there has been a tradition of the Senate approving this and the President signing this.
Not doing this looks like you have radicals in the House.

I’m not saying the interpretation is wrong, I’m saying past behavior would make this current approach look real bad to the public who can at this point barely spell their own names correctly with all the glorious public school education. Public is too stupid to get this.


67 posted on 10/03/2013 9:25:45 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 1010RD
We want a Constitutional Republic, not a banana one.

We already have (barely) a banana republic. Hussein Obama is using our rules to destroy the US.

It is what Muslim terrorist do, they destroy so they can enslave.

68 posted on 10/03/2013 9:30:26 AM PDT by politicianslie (Our first Muslim President laughs at you. Are you waiting for NBC to tell you who he is?)
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To: Jane Long

If Boehner Caves In to the Court of Public Opinion, which is run by the Low Information Liberal Media, and Obamacare is funded, Obama can then raise every year or quarter his Obamacare insurance premiums as high as he wants to, and the sorry US Congress can’t do anything about it.

Congress will thus be bypassed.


69 posted on 10/03/2013 9:30:46 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Jane Long
It's paid for by Senate Conservatives/DontFundIt...they are doing the Lord's work on this.

I like this. Quite a bit in fact.

70 posted on 10/03/2013 9:32:39 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (My PV2 is my hero.)
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To: Graewoulf
Now if Boehner will grow a pair

"IF"....

71 posted on 10/03/2013 9:33:05 AM PDT by shego
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To: blueyon

And this keeps Zero from dipping into the Treasury and writing checks how?


72 posted on 10/03/2013 9:39:26 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ZeroCare: Make them pay; do not delay.)
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To: Graewoulf; FReepers

Tweeters....tell @SpeakerBoehner to #HoldTheLine and #DontCave #DefundObamaCare to #ExemptAmerica!


73 posted on 10/03/2013 10:24:57 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Same here.


74 posted on 10/03/2013 10:25:33 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Graewoulf
If Boehner Caves

I'm surprised he's held out this long....

75 posted on 10/03/2013 10:30:40 AM PDT by shego
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To: blueyon

ping


76 posted on 10/03/2013 10:45:34 AM PDT by celmak
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To: Graewoulf

Thanks for the ping!


77 posted on 10/03/2013 3:04:32 PM PDT by PGalt
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