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Tea Party radicalism is misunderstood: Meet the “Newest Right” (You're richer than average, he says)
Salon ^ | October 6, 2013 | Michael Lind

Posted on 10/07/2013 6:24:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Henry Hnyellar

“In fact, the role that antigovernment sentiment in the South plays in Tea Party movement support is the strongest in our analysis.”

Not hardly. I guess this guy hasn’t bothered to look at the changes in the populations of the southern states over time. Migration from northeastern states to the states of the south and west has occurred in pretty large numbers in the later half of the 20th century. When he tries to tie the Tea Party to the Dixiecrats and etc he’s claiming that those groups derived their support from whites from the northeast. Or, he’s implying that by either moving south and/or living there for some time, these once non-problematic north easterners were magically transformed to Tea Partiers. Maybe it’s the water in the south.

His analysis is laughable.


21 posted on 10/07/2013 7:14:33 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Henry Hnyellar
The author is both a fool and a liar.

He tries to portray the tea party as a southern phenomena but the midwest has been a regular hotbed of serious conservative change in recent years with tea party sentiment driving it. The union fight in Wisconsin, the passage of RTW laws in Indiana and Michigan, Gun laws in Illinois, and Wisconsin. I think Michigan is the only state to seat a tea partier on the RNC.

The tea party has natural strength in the south but the midwest is where its effects have been most striking.
22 posted on 10/07/2013 7:21:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: sgtyork

Let me rephrase that.

What word, exactly, bothers you?

And, precisely, WHY?


23 posted on 10/07/2013 7:25:10 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What an ignoramus. He neglected to explain why this movement chose the name “Tea Party.” Ya think maybe they were concerned about loss of freedom?


24 posted on 10/07/2013 7:27:54 PM PDT by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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To: TigersEye

It’s funny how the left has been saying the Tea Party’s dead. Now we’re shutting down the whole country. And we’re doing it because we don’t want to lose control of those we feel are beneath us. Projection anyone? That is how liberals operate. We don’t want to control anyone, nor do we wish to be controlled, that’s the whole point! Ted Cruz scared the living crap out of them; they really did believe we were a bunch of ignorant Neanderthals.


25 posted on 10/07/2013 7:27:56 PM PDT by informavoracious (Of course I want people to have healthcare, I just didn't know I was the one who would be paying...)
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26 posted on 10/07/2013 7:32:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Nervous Tick; sgtyork

It must have been the word “illegal” followed by “Mexican”.

Because we all know that great, small government constitutionalist W. Bush told us family values don’t stop at the border.


27 posted on 10/07/2013 7:33:21 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What BS...the Tea Party grew out of grassroots outrage at Obamacare and
Obama’s stated goal to fundamentally transform this country. It grew out of the town halls back in 2009 and spans the country. When I went to DC in 2011 for the Tea Party rally the people were from every state and from every walk of life. The only thing I will agree with is that Tea Party members are more intelligent than your average low-information voter - and definitely smarter than Obama voters. It’s pathetic to see how the left will spin the narrative to make the Tea Party fit into its “racist, sexist, homophobic, neanderthal right-wing” template.


28 posted on 10/07/2013 7:33:56 PM PDT by madmominct
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; seeker41; Texas Fossil; All

Michael Lind, it all boils down to this:

The Silent Majority is what you call the TEA Party.

Deal with it.

The only thing that is “new” is THE NEW REPUBLICAN PARTY.

RINO Hunting Season begins 1-1-2014.

BTW, this 2014 RINO hunt has no bag limit, tents or caves - - -


29 posted on 10/07/2013 7:43:02 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh goodie - another far left wing activist douche bag is going to explain conservatism....


30 posted on 10/07/2013 7:46:16 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is such a sad statement that asking government to cut back after tripling in size in 13 years is considered “radical.” That asking the ever-expanding, unsustainable Welfare State Ponzi Scheme to slow down and not take on more obligations is “extreme.” And if living within our means is so outside the mainstream, its no wonder the country is swirling down the toilet with no hope of coming back.


31 posted on 10/07/2013 7:50:29 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Michael Lind is an ignorant snob. Worse, he's willfully ignorant. He oozes condescension and arrogance. He's your typical lib from Austin [Heart of Darkness], Texas. He brings no value added to the table.
32 posted on 10/07/2013 7:56:07 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This leftist actually hit the nail on the head. The important quote from his article is

“The Newest Right is the simply the old Jeffersonian-Jacksonian right, adopting new strategies in response to changed circumstances.”

I agree. What he characterizes as the New Right does follow the Jeffersonian-Jacksonian model. Which is a firm comitment to small government. From 1801-1849 this political movement kept Big Government Federalism and Whiggism from concentrating power in Washington DC. Time after time Presidents vetoed bills for the simple reason that they expanded the scope of the Federal government beyond constiturional restrictions.

Where he goes of the rails historically, is when he equates Jeffersonism as regional. It was not. It was strong nationally. The opposition from 1816-1828 did not even field an opposition. Plus equating Jeffersonism with the Confederacy is also historically inaccurate. The Big Government southern Whigs were very prominent within the CSA.

The differences I have is that I consider myself a Jeffersonian in spirit thus I’m ecstatic over the Tea Party activism, while the writer being a Statist despises the Jeffersonian-Jacksonian ideal.


33 posted on 10/07/2013 8:31:32 PM PDT by gusty
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To: noprogs; sgtyork

>> It must have been the word “illegal” followed by “Mexican”.

I’m just chalking it up to a swarthy fella who worships PC and culture bonding over the plain truth.


34 posted on 10/07/2013 8:39:47 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: TigersEye

Truly BIG business (GM, BOA, Citi) are like families in the old New York “Commission”. They divy up territory and market and conspire to knock off any upstarts who try to set up on their turf.

It is far easier for them to co-opt and harness the vast and unimaginably powerful bureaucratic machine to guarantee their profits than it is to engage in the difficult, messy and risky business of actual competition. Crony capitalism exists because crony capitalism works.

Insurance companies loved Obamacare because the gubmint would FORCE you to buy their product. This is just one example. They are willfully blind to the fact that that Obama set it up to fail, so he could build his socialized medicine system in the wreckage. Since the time horizon of American companies rarely extends beyond the next shareholder meeting, they don’t care. The CEOs will rotate from HP to PepsiCo to UPS in the great game if executive Musical Chairs, picking up options and golden parachutes along the way. As Keynes said, in the long fun, we’re all dead.

The casualties are the small and mid size companies who find themselves getting swatted like flies. Dare to dream that your enterprise could become an Apple or Microsoft? Guaranteed they won’t out compete you, they’ll just let the weight of regulation and gubmint harassment drag you down while they are big enough to stand on the bottom and still keep their noses above the water, if only barely. They got there first and now they have all of the money they need to buy access and influence and so effectively pull the ladder up behind themselves.

But they are deluding themselves. They think that the crocodile will eat them last. Was it Jefferson who compared government to fire, saying that both are fickle servants and fearful masters?
When and if the Fortune 500 CEOs find themselves kneeling and looking down into the proverbial trench, it’s going to be hard to resist the temptation to say, “I told you so!’


35 posted on 10/07/2013 8:46:04 PM PDT by SargeK
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"non-Tea Party conservatives"?

Who B doze?

36 posted on 10/07/2013 9:00:19 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting read. First conclude that the Tea arty is upscale and educated, then write them off as self interested racist toglodytes.


37 posted on 10/07/2013 9:11:53 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Notwithstanding the distinct possibility that Lind is just another lib hack who is more of a liar than anything else, do these wackjobs ever actually talk to Tea Party members? And as far as disenfranchising minorities, it is almost impossible to find “minorities” that have been disenfranchised because of the voter ID laws. In short, he’s talking out of his posterior orifice.


38 posted on 10/07/2013 9:17:45 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Neoliberalnot

Lind has a record of writing from the “intellectual Left”, but much of it is just the same old far-left crap wrapped up in “high faluting words”.

He wouldn’t know a real Tea Party member if one bit him in the butt.

However, he might know a Tea Bagger or two.


39 posted on 10/07/2013 9:24:04 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: SargeK

Big business has always been in bed with the Statists since the founding. They were Federalists in 1798 and are part of the Democrat coalition in 2013. What big business despises most of all is competition. They are monopolists at heart. Big Unions, hyper regulation, high taxes all work in favor of big business. They have their Democrat stooges in Washington and various state houses working to force out their competition from the market. Big business can absorb the costs of big government where their mid to small competition cannot.


40 posted on 10/07/2013 9:24:58 PM PDT by gusty
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