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To: Antoninus
I would rather win as an honest man than go down as one. Don't get me wrong, I'm not die hard Republican, but I just don't see how going third party is going to improve things.

I've asked this before on FR, but I'll ask again: if conservatives were to start taking over the GOP from the grass roots up, is there any legal means available to the GOPe to stop us?
23 posted on 10/16/2013 11:46:27 AM PDT by DangerZone (If the left had their way, all of America would be as safe as Sandy Hook Elementary.)
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To: DangerZone; All
I've been dealing with grassroots organizations for many years, and canvassing for Conservative candidates for 20+ years. This much is true:

The GOP-E has never been as Liberal as it is now. Not when it attacked Nixon, not when it attacked Goldwater, not when it attacked Reagan. It is so Liberal right now, it is unrecognizable to me. And there is nobody doing more damage to grassroot Conservatism right now than Karl Rove, whose defense of Liberal Republicans and mountains of money he gets in their treasuries has quelled almost every attempt at a grassroots uprising. We win every once in a while, sure, but we lose a lot more than we win. It's getting to the point where we almost can't unseat people in primaries because of the raw money and media power.

It used to be that the GOP-E was Liberal on Social Issues and Conservative on fiscal issues. Now they are very Liberal on Social Issues and Moderate on fiscal issues. They are terrified of the press, the Chamber, and K Street.

I always hated third party talk. Now I'm looking at going that way, myself. This party is going in the wrong direction, and it is irredeemable now. It's lost, for good. We're not going to save it, and we're not going to take it over. The GOP is no longer the solution, it's a drug we take to drown out the Democrats, and we've overdosed.

27 posted on 10/16/2013 12:35:31 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("I'm not much different from A.Cuomo.I probably agree with him on 98% of the issues." - Gov Christie)
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