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To: American Constitutionalist
Qualifications of Suffrage (August 7, 10) : The Anti-Federalist Papers

Mr. DICKINSON had a very different idea of the tendency of vesting the right of suffrage in the freeholders of the Country. He considered them as the best guardians of liberty; And the restriction of the right to them as a necessary defence against the dangerous influence of those multitudes without property and without principle with which our Country like all others, will in time abound. As to the unpopularity of the innovation it was in his opinion chemirical. The great mass of our Citizens is composed at this time of freeholders, and will be pleased with it.

Mr. GOUVERNEUR MORRIS. He had long learned not to be the dupe of words. The sound of Aristocracy therefore had no effect on him. It was the thing, not the name, to which he was opposed, and one of his principal objections to the Constitution as it is now before us, is that it threatens this Country with an Aristocracy. The aristocracy will grow out of the House of Representatives. Give the votes to people who have no property, and they will sell them to the rich who will be able to buy them. We should not confine our attention to the present moment. The time is not distant when this Country will abound with mechanics and manufacturers who will receive their bread from their employers. Will such men be the secure and faithful Guardians of liberty? Will they be the impregnable barrier against aristocracy? ---He was as little duped by the association of the words "taxation and Representation." The man who does not give his vote freely is not represented. It is the man who dictates the vote. Children do not vote. Why? because they want prudence, because they have no will of their own. The ignorant and the dependent can be as little trusted with the public interest. He did not conceive the difficulty of defining "freeholders" to be insuperable. Still less that the restriction could be unpopular. 9/10 of the people are at present freeholders and these will certainly be pleased with it. As to Merchants, etc., if they have wealth and value the right they can acquire it. If not they don't deserve it.

Mr. MADISON. the right of suffrage is certainly one of the fundamental articles of republican Government, and ought not to be left to be regulated by the Legislature. A gradual abridgment of this right has been the mode in which Aristocracies have been built on the ruins of popular forms. Whether the Constitutional qualification ought to be a freehold, would with him depend much on the probable reception such a change would meet with in States where the right was now exercised by every description of people. In several of the States a freehold was now the qualification. Viewing the subject in its merits alone, the freeholders of the Country would be the safest depositories of Republican liberty. In future times a great majority of the people will not only be without landed, but any other sort of, property. These will either combine under the influence of their common situation; in which case, the rights of property and the public liberty, will not be secure in their hands: or which is more probable, they will become the tools of opulence and ambition, in which case there will be equal danger on another side. The example of England had been misconceived [by Colonel Mason]. A very small proportion of the Representatives are there chosen by freeholders. The greatest part are chosen by the Cities and boroughs, in many of which the qualification of suffrage is as low as it in any of the U. S. and it was in the boroughs and Cities rather than the Counties, that bribery most prevailed, and the influence of the Crown on elections was most dangerously exerted.

The right of suffrage is a fundamental Article in Republican Constitutions. The regulation of it is, at the same time, a task of peculiar delicacy. Allow the right exclusively to property, and the rights of persons may be oppressed. The feudal polity alone sufficiently proves it. Extend it equally to all, and the rights of property or the claims of justice may be overruled by a majority without property, or interested in measures of injustice. Of this abundant proof is afforded by other popular Governments and is not without examples in our own, particularly in the laws impairing the obligation of contracts.

Universal suffrage combined with deficit of wisdom ALWAYS results in collapse of free society. The US will become similar to one of several historical examples.

A principled vote is useless, because principled votes are outnumbered by the votes of the needy and dependent class.

"We are a democracy" indeed. And that is emphatically a bad thing.

35 posted on 10/17/2013 5:04:51 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
But what do you do ? when ?

Those who own that property are hell bent on socialism ? hell bent on Marxism ? hell bent on a One World Government ?

Hell bent on giving homos the full fledged revenge on Christians that they long sought after ( after all ? what's what it is, fledged revenge )?

Hell bent on giving the feminist their long sought after Feminist Nation Fascism ?
What do you do when all those forced have all the money and property ? then what ?
43 posted on 10/17/2013 5:27:43 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Cboldt

Well done. An excellent and timely post.


53 posted on 10/17/2013 5:49:50 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Cboldt
A principled vote is useless, because principled votes are outnumbered by the votes of the needy and dependent class.

Easily solved by making the moral decision to exclude from the franchise those living on the government dole. It is justifiably moral to require it in voting.

Probably a lot more Americans than you think would be perfectly okay with that, and even more pleased to be required to show photo ID for voting. The only reason anyone fights voter ID laws is to enable fraud. Everyone knows it.

Really, it all comes down to morality. America needs to revisit and acknowledge confidence in its Judeo-Christian foundation. Be good, do right, and this can work for everybody. You don't need the government to decide what's moral in terms of charity (welfare), environmental (cleaning up after yourself), health care, homosexuality -- government presumes to fine-tune control over We the People.

We sure do need a Christian revival.

85 posted on 10/20/2013 3:55:18 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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