Posted on 10/17/2013 1:16:18 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
Bite me comrade
AKA:
A Constitutional Right.
#1. If you know so much about this case, how is it possible there were no bandoliers strapped across his chest?
This alone seems to impeach everything else you've state here.
#2. If this was all a set up, and all planned, why did the video not even start until the cop was out of his car with his hands on him?
Explain to me what your right to keep and bear arms has to do with this case. I am an NRA member and I noticed the NRA did not jump all over this case. Maybe because the NRA used common sense and realized this guy is just an a$$hole looking for trouble.
Well, I've actually been a police officer, and I'm telling you the police were wrong.
I hope the jury agrees.
We'll just have to see.
This is not a case about your civil rights.
I never said it was.
It’s a case about a belligerent citizen looking for trouble and yes he got it.
So you advocate the arrest of belligerent citizens? Man, are you on the wrong forum.
Do you not have any common sense?
I did not see any crime here.
What crime did you see committed here?
I'll leave up to the other posters to decide which of us is posting without common sense.
What are you talking about? That is what this is all about.
What crime was committed here?
You may not want to hear about rights. That’s your problem - they exist. We have no duty to be respectful to an abusive civil right violating officer operating outside the law.
You have nicely summarized the problem with some posters here. The police cannot, I repeat cannot detain a citizen unless they have reasonable suspicion to believe a crime is happening, has happened, or is about to happen.
The only thing the police can do absent reasonable suspicion is to engage in a consensual encounter, in which the citizen is free to leave at any time.
Grabbing the citizen's lawfully carried firearm is not part of a consensual encounter. It is completely irrelevant what is said by the citizen unless it implicates a crime. The citizen can call the officer a douchebag and make fun of his mother... it does not matter.
Once the officer grabbed the rifle, he was acting beyond his authority.
Gnaw me jerkwad.
I have an airport road near me. And guess what? There is an airport on it. I think I will grab my AR-15 and go for a walk down it. When the police,inevitably, stop to question me I will tell them it’s my right, get belligerent with them and try and keep walking. Can you not comprehend this?
I did not mean that your question was indicative that YOU couldn't grasp it, just that you hit the nail on the head.
Whatever, I blather on. You were right, is what I mean.
Ahh your an intelligent one aren’t you.
What are you talking about? That is what this is all about.
What crime was committed here?
Why are you evading the questions?
I am being belligerent.
You see that as some kind of crime?
Interfering with the duties of a police officer.
Ah, we arrive at the disconnect. Just because you THINK something is bad, doesn't mean it is illegal. Just because you THINK someone "had it coming", doesn't mean they legally do.
If there are no legal restrictions on carrying a rifle openly in your jurisdiction, and you walk down your airport road with an AR-15, and the police approach you, YES YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO KEEP ON WALKING.
Freedom comes with a price, FRiend. Could there be dangers involved? Sure. Doesn't matter. The law is the law, and the Constitution is the Constitution, period.
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