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Left demands: Charge Ted Cruz with sedition
The Washington Examiner ^ | October 18, 2013 | Byron York

Posted on 10/19/2013 11:11:09 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I appeared on NPR on Wednesday and was surprised to hear a caller say that Sen. Ted Cruz should be charged with sedition. "I'm really baffled by the fact that the discussion has not ever reached the point where charges of sedition should be brought up against him for conspiring and bullying others to work with him to undermine the American economy … full faith and credit," the caller said. "He's done so much damage to the standing of the United States in the world. And if you read the Sedition Act, it seems like it really applies."

A colleague on the panel, the Wall Street Journal's Sudeep Reddy, assured the caller, "There is no possibility of that." And the conversation moved on. But it turns out that in a few corners of the left, there are activists who would like to see Cruz, along with other Republicans and conservatives who have expressed strong opposition to Obamacare, charged with inciting rebellion against the United States government.

After Cruz and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin appeared together last weekend on the National Mall, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow reported the event in front of a screen with pictures of Cruz and Palin and the title LATEST SEDITION. Maddow did not utter the word itself, but viewers certainly got the message.

On the activist website MoveOn.org, there are multiple petitions calling for Cruz and others to be charged with sedition. In one, the petition writer adopted a very broad and somewhat fuzzy standard under which Cruz should be sent to jail: "Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order," the petition says. "Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power." Another petition adds "insurrection" to Cruz's indictment.

And it's not just Cruz the lefties seek to prosecute. One particularly energetic petitioner lists 61 people "known to date to have conspired against the United States government to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of a law of the United States by forcing the government to shut down." Among those targeted are many of the usual suspects — the Koch brothers, Rand Paul, Mitch McConnell, Mike Lee and others. But the list also includes Grace-Marie Turner, head of the Galen Institute; Michael Grebe, head of the Bradley Foundation; Angelo Codevilla, a retired professor of international relations; Craig Shirley, the public relations man and author of books on Ronald Reagan; Edwin Meese, Reagan's attorney general; and many others.

Grace-Marie Turner? Sedition? It turns out that in the world of some left-wing websites, there are a lot of insurrectionists to punish.

Finally, at the DailyKos, a reliable place to look for stuff like this, a popular post notes that protesters who take to the streets for liberal causes (like "Moral Monday" in North Carolina) have sometimes faced arrest. "But Ted Cruz and his posse of traitors can engage in outright sedition and the actual destruction of America without fear of anything more serious than losing an election?" asks the diarist. "Something is very, very wrong with this upside-down state of affairs." Another post, headlined "Prosecute The Conspirators Who Plotted The Government Shutdown In Violation Of 18 USC 2384.," continued: "These individuals acting in concert have gone far beyond the free speech protected by the 1st Amendment," the diarist writes, "protections up to which they are only entitled to the point of causing 'clear and present danger.' "


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cruz; obamacare; palin; teaparty; tedcruz; texas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I totally agree as I have continue to say one day this nation will not be safe for Christians and Jews. Yet many of them are Democrats and Liberals so they brought it upon themselves. I’m not a scholar in the Bible but I recall a passage that God says “My people shall PERISH for lack of knowledge” and he was not talking about ABC, or 123.

There is no doubt my fellow patriots that Civil War will eventually have to come to save our republic. I can only pray to God that he comes quickly. These morons are underestimating the spirit of our fellow patriots. God Bless every law enforcement and yes even government workers who are patriots and are watching closely. The day is near folks, that is all I can say for now.


61 posted on 10/19/2013 12:46:43 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The leftist charity strikes again.

Please do it leftists.


62 posted on 10/19/2013 12:55:56 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Right after O is impeached and convicted


63 posted on 10/19/2013 12:55:57 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every liberal has a burning coal of Satanic evil within his breast.

They are the Enemy.

After a hundred million innocent dead in the twentieth century, no liberal is entitled to the slightest consideration, courtesy, or civility. Liberals should be reviled, abominated, spat upon, even beaten, whenever they have the gall to show their faces in the presence of decent people.

Lunatic babbling such as that reported in this article is of no interest. Crazy people say crazy things.

Of paramount interest, though, is the matter of ensuring that these creepy-crawlies never get the chance to bring their horrifying nightmares into reality.

What’s that? Your mother/father/brother/aunt/uncle/husband/wife/sister/best friend is a liberal, and you want to pretend that they are people of good will and intelligence who merely happen to disagree?

Sorry. To the degree that a person is a liberal, that person is under the sway of the Earl of Hell.


64 posted on 10/19/2013 12:56:23 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: trubolotta

The fubar ledt does not realize that a gangster world is run like the kennel club.

Good dogs are kept for the race, and later on are adopted as prize pets.

There is no place for a libtards who gamble and bet and kill against eah other in this.


65 posted on 10/19/2013 12:59:07 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If being a Real American, and forcing the federal government to execute it’s duties, within the parameters of the U.S. Constitution, and all else stops, then those that propose that, had better to be able to back up their own words, when they go to the coffee shop, the supermarket, their hair place, etc., for some little teenie tiny single John Q./Jane Q. Public, might just call them on their words, with the call,
“STAND AND DELIVER”!!


66 posted on 10/19/2013 12:59:14 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Only ignorance of the ideas underlying America's Declaration of Independence and subsequent Constitution for a "We, the People's" government--not a centralized government power which could not be challenged on behalf of "the People."

The Framers [of the Constitution] knew that free speech is the friend of change and revolution. But they also knew that it is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny."

        Justice Hugo Black

The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.

        Samuel Adams

The highest glory of the American Revolution was this; it connected, in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.

        John Quincy Adams

The very reason for the First Amendment is to make the people of this country free to think, speak, write and worship as they wish, not as the Government commands.

        Justice Hugo Black

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or
of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition
the Government for a redress of grievances.
        First Amendment to the Constitution

The framers of the constitution knew human nature as well as we do. They too had lived in dangerous days; they too knew the suffocating influence of orthodoxy and standardized thought. They weighed the compulsions for restrained speech and thought against the abuses of liberty. They chose liberty.

        Justice William Douglas

Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one’s thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist. That, of all rights, is the dread of tyrants. It is the right which they first of all strike down.

        Frederick Douglass

Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no Constitution, no court, can even do much to help it.

        Justice Learned Hand

We hold these truths to be sacred and undeniable, that all men are created equal and independent, that from that equal creation they derive rights inherent and inalienable, among which are the preservation of life, and liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

        Thomas Jefferson

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.
        Thomas Jefferson

Ours was the first revolution in the history of mankind that truly reversed the course of government, and with three little words: 'We the people.' 'We the people' tell the government what to do, it doesn't tell us. 'We the people' are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast. Almost all the world's constitutions are documents in which governments tell the people what their privileges are. Our Constitution is a document in which 'We the people' tell the government what it is allowed to do. 'We the people' are free.

        Ronald Reagan

Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them.

        Justice Joseph Story

No man can suffer too much, and no man can fall too soon, if he suffer or if he fall in defense of the liberties and Constitution of his country.

        Daniel Webster

Hold on, my friends, to the Constitution and to the Republic for which it stands. Miracles do not cluster and what has happened once in 6,000 years, may not happen again. Hold on to the Constitution, for if the American Constitution should fail, there will be anarchy throughout the world.

        Daniel Webster

America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.

        Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin

That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

        Abraham Lincoln

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union,
establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common
defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to
ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the
United States of America.

67 posted on 10/19/2013 12:59:27 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: dsc

Liberals have their heads in the sand for their practicalities.

Meet the gollum:
One minute they vindictively scream “I won”, the other minute they plead for handouts for the unfortunate.


68 posted on 10/19/2013 1:01:46 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How times have changed:

In 2003, Hillary Clinton screeched "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration."

69 posted on 10/19/2013 1:02:53 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I say we put THEM up against a wall first.


70 posted on 10/19/2013 1:04:37 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order," the petition says.

HMMMmmm...


 
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
 that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
 that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--
 
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
 deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --
 
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
 it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
 laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form,
 as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
 

71 posted on 10/19/2013 1:16:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Fu-fu2; malia; Republicanprofessor; chicagolady; nurse-rn; ConservativeDude; ...

Ted Cruz Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!


72 posted on 10/19/2013 1:28:53 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
activists who would like to see Cruz, along with other Republicans and conservatives who have expressed strong opposition to Obamacare, charged with inciting rebellion against the United States government.

Dear Moveon and other Marxists/progressives/democRATs: No one has incited nor caused a rebellion...yet.

...And pray it doesn't come to that.

5.56mm

73 posted on 10/19/2013 1:31:06 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: loveliberty2; All
Reagan Warned Us About Obama

Uploaded on May 22, 2011

How Reagan summed up Obama in the first 5 minutes of a speech over 40 years ago.


74 posted on 10/19/2013 1:38:29 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course it is the leftists, like the Demonrat party and RINOs, who have long been the real traitors and need to be tried, convicted, and sentenced as traitors.


75 posted on 10/19/2013 1:42:39 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well we didn’t think they’d all go quietly into the night just because one man stood up and spoke the truth ...did we?

While we sit here and marvel at the outright intolerance of the fascists...the professors of our nation’s future morality...we know our time as Freemen is limited now.

They have irked, raised our ire, and even assaulted those who would stand up for them in liberty and freedom. How can we stop a people who so desperately want the chains of slavery clamped around their ankles?


76 posted on 10/19/2013 1:44:38 PM PDT by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You just know morons like this who toss around the word sedition so blithely would be the very types who would gladly load grandma, parents, and their children into railroad cars if given the order to do so by this Regime.

Imagine just how brutal the Left would be if they didn’t believe in “tolerance”.


77 posted on 10/19/2013 2:00:22 PM PDT by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Title - Left demands: Charge Ted Cruz with sedition

But under the previous administration, Hillary Clinton said that dissent is patriotic! It is confusing to have so many different rules for so many different people.


78 posted on 10/19/2013 2:25:19 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: Nifster

Couldn’t Pelosi be charged with fraud, at the very least, re Obama’s Hawaii eligibility letter being different from that sent to the other states? Maybe Reid too, if he OK’d and signed off on it.


79 posted on 10/19/2013 2:28:59 PM PDT by IM2MAD (IM2MAD=Individual Motivated 2 Make A Difference)
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To: IM2MAD

How about treason???


80 posted on 10/19/2013 2:39:42 PM PDT by Nifster
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