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To: moonshinner_09
Not looking good for the police in this case at all.


In all fairness, Santa Rosa has some serious gang problems and gang violence.

That pellet gun looks exactly like an AK-47 assault rifle with a magazine loaded

That's 30-40 rounds of 7.62X39 which is pretty deadly at less than 100 yds and even in semi auto 30 aimed shots take about 20 seconds.

So you can kill 30 -40 people in less than 30 seconds.

I'll reserve judgment because if this was in a crowded area where there were a large number of people within close range and the police thought the guy was about let loose on a bunch of unarmed people it could be a mitigating factor.

Remember, California has very strict gun control, including the Bertil -Roos Assault weapon ban

There are very, very few legal AK-47s in California because Bertil-Roos went into effect banning assault rifles in 1988 or so - a time when virtually no AK-47s were in the country.

The pellet gun has what appears to be a full size, high capacity magazine, which is illegal in California, so the cops no doubt figured they were dealing with a guy carrying an illegal assault rifle with an illegal high capacity magazine.

A guy walking down the street with an AK 47 would not raise a fuss in Arizona or Texas, but this is California we are talking about.

8 posted on 10/26/2013 1:34:51 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

“There are very, very few legal AK-47s in California”

So then, what are the odds a 13 year old kid would have one?

I would think cops could have extrapolated that possibility.


12 posted on 10/26/2013 1:46:00 AM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult Will Be The Soundtrack For The Revolution.....)
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To: rdcbn

“There are very, very few legal AK-47s in California because Bertil-Roos went into effect banning assault rifles in 1988 or so - a time when virtually no AK-47s were in the country.”

That is NOT TRUE! I was at the range in Concord, CA today. The fellow at the next bench was shooting his AK47 that he told me was made in Serbia. Bertil-Roos banned specific “assault weapons” by brand/model, but not by type. He was using 10 round mags, which make the weapon legal. Same is true for AR-15’s. BTW, Santa Rosa is not a good place to be, but the cops in this sad instance are simply killers and it will be interesting to see if and how they weasel out of their crime here.


14 posted on 10/26/2013 1:53:20 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: rdcbn

You know...I would really like to give the cops benefit of the doubt...but given the rampant misbehavior of so many, and worse yet the knee-jerk unjustified protection from their fellow officers, I just can’t.

This is something cops have done to themselves.


16 posted on 10/26/2013 1:54:08 AM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: rdcbn

You can kill 30-40 people in 30 seconds??? You sound like the gun grabbers.


30 posted on 10/26/2013 2:26:58 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rdcbn
"...the police thought the guy was about let loose on a bunch of unarmed people..."

You say that like letting loose on unarmed people is a bad thing. Tell it to the cops who did just that.

141 posted on 10/26/2013 6:59:59 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: rdcbn
That's 30-40 rounds of 7.62X39 which is pretty deadly at less than 100 yds and even in semi auto 30 aimed shots take about 20 seconds.

So you can kill 30 -40 people in less than 30 seconds.

So firing at a rate of faster than once per second every shot will be fatal?

Sergeant Instructor Alfred Snoxall couldn't do that.

Got any other boogiemen you'd like to spring on us?

195 posted on 10/26/2013 12:21:13 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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