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Carney on cancellations: Insurers “basically threw you off that plan,” you know, not ObamaCare
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Posted on 10/29/2013 6:04:30 PM PDT by chessplayer

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To: Secret Agent Man

No, everyone does not know that insurers have to comply

This point needs to get put way out front

Insurance is NOT everyone’s best friend. Third party payer started this mess but many decades ago driving up cost promoting a sick care system and not a health care system.

People will be happy to despise them, way to their own detriment, not realizing obamacare is a very destructive controlling system just put in taking advantage of a bad system

The point about insurance companies Fox News people were just shaking their heads about

When will anyone start informing people about all of this?

No, everyone is not putting this together anymore than they are not seeing that Hillary got canned for flopping at state like she flops at everything but shell be a great presidential candidate


41 posted on 10/29/2013 6:46:55 PM PDT by stanne
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To: chessplayer

I hope the big shots at Blue Cross and others are listening to Obama throw them under the bus. Serves them right for not fighting against something so dumb in concept. It would be helpful if they started talking, and letting everyone know exactly how few people are enrolling and how impossible this whole thing is to keep alive. Every day they wait to overhaul the entire thing costs everyone a lot of money.


42 posted on 10/29/2013 6:53:10 PM PDT by ToastedHead
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Yup. Dead on right!


43 posted on 10/29/2013 6:55:33 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: stanne
stanne:" Still, no one is getting ahead of this point.
I would like to hear just how it’s obamacare’s fault that the insurance co s are hiking rates. "

By including , and then mandating , by law ,coverage of non-essential medical services , and increasing the "donut-hole" expenses, the price of insurance increased .
Previously , all insurance was based upon state regulations , and you couldn't go outside your state for a lower fee.
An incidental issue is that individual states required TRAINING and LICENSEING of health insurance sales personell, bonding and CERTIFICATION of competancy ,
OBummerCare requires you attend a 20 hour online video training , with NO TEST for COMPETANCY , nor is a background check done ..
Now the Fed , overstepping state boundaries , DEMANDS insurance coverage of medical issues which will increase the price of local coverage.
I am male , don't need a PAP smear , mammogram ,nor birth control or abortion coverage , nor a pelvic exam , and have no pre-existing condition other than
freaking Conservative OUTRAGE as to how the expenses of this Obomination insurance adds needlessly to my expenses and is a TAX .
This TAX , prior to government demand and control, rose at the rate of 9 % per year ; now , due to governemnt demanded coverage , I can expect a 300 % increase within one year...
and that is just in the FIRST year of inception (!!) .
The FED may not have to define and submit a budget in four years ,.. but I have to budget my income, unlike the FED , and live within my means !

44 posted on 10/29/2013 6:57:59 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: chessplayer
Look, the concept is to force us into Single Payer (read: Government Owned) health care.

But there is a problem.

The Democrats gave us this fustercluck.

WHO THE HELL -- EVEN AMONG LIBERALS -- WOULD TRUST THE DEMOCRATS TO ENACT AN EVEN *BIGGER* SYSTEM??!??!?

45 posted on 10/29/2013 6:59:56 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Sarah, see the above.


46 posted on 10/29/2013 7:00:28 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Fzob

“Liberalism” is the name of the mental illness.


47 posted on 10/29/2013 7:00:41 PM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: chessplayer

The ACA LAW makes insurers cancel peoples pre-existing plan and policies— because they do not require coverage for maternity, contraception and a raft of other items most people do not want or need, nor should they have to pay for others to get them.

This is quite a mouthful for Carney to deliver. The companies, in order to follow a DEMOCRAT/obamaumao written law, HAVE to cancel peoples policies, offer them the mandatory alternative which costs much much more. Obamaomao lied.


48 posted on 10/29/2013 7:03:47 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: chessplayer

The FIRST thing that Obama says in a speech is ALWAYS a Lie.

The SECOND thing that Obama says in a speech is to accuse a Republican of thinking some evil thing that Obama has already done.

(Source: The Second Edition of the Marxist Obamanation Administration Dictionary).


49 posted on 10/29/2013 7:08:30 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: chessplayer

Blaming the insurance companies for this is like promising to lower the unemployment rate and then blaming employers when it rises.

Barak the Blamer is never at fault.


50 posted on 10/29/2013 7:10:51 PM PDT by djpg
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To: Lazamataz

Dems want a single payer..most of them are supporters of the single payer system..that is why you seem them blaming the insurance companies for this, they need an excuse..make people upset..get the media to be the puppets and blame the insurance companies..enough sheep will buy into it just like they buy into everything else the media tells them..and the rest is history, a single payer system


51 posted on 10/29/2013 7:14:56 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I would love to take the 0bamacare plan and throw it in the faces of the human refuse that crammed this atrocity down our throats.


52 posted on 10/29/2013 7:21:31 PM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: chessplayer

Those f’in insurance companies - what we really need is a single payer system with the government in charge - that’ll fix ‘em.......


53 posted on 10/29/2013 8:52:50 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: chessplayer
"Insurers “basically threw you off that plan,” you know, not ObamaCare"

Is this something like saying, it wasn't obama that killed your mom, it was the fault of that sharp blade he was sawing across her neck that was to blame.
54 posted on 10/30/2013 2:51:35 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Venturer

Yes a mell of a hess. One year ago hurricane Sandy was the mess maker.now a real mess.


55 posted on 10/30/2013 3:53:23 AM PDT by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not just selectively for Democrats.)
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To: Revolting cat!; GeronL
Unfortunately even the conservative critics have dropped the ball on this by echoing the Democrat talking points (”the plans changed, it was the fault of the insurance companies responding to changes in the law by Mr. Obama”).

President Obama himself said that the Cadillac plans should be ended. HE was personally against some plans “that people could keep if they wanted”.

He also is on tape during the election saying that it may take 20 years to get to single payer but that is his goal.

THROW BOTH ON TAPE QUOTES BACK IN HIS FACE.

Nope. The argument is going to collapse into a “meaning of the word is” arguments rather than unequivocally PROVING that President Obama lied to the public (by direct lie and through lies of omission).

56 posted on 10/30/2013 9:49:13 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: AMDG&BVMH

Silly-bus


57 posted on 10/30/2013 9:53:06 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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58 posted on 10/30/2013 9:53:23 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Lazamataz

I could name a couple,, Boehner and McCain for starters.


59 posted on 10/30/2013 9:54:26 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: a fool in paradise

It was a plain bald-faced lie and he knew it at the time.

You are correct of course, the goal was always single payer


60 posted on 10/30/2013 10:00:03 AM PDT by GeronL
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