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To: nathanbedford; Cringing Negativism Network
I wanted to reply to your post but it was pulled on the other thread for a duplicate:

America has been sending American jobs overseas (and to China, in large part) for an entire generation.

You replied to CNN as follows:

It has not been the tea party but the establishment of the Republican Party through its sounding boards in places like the Wall Street Journal that have sustained this policy. In other words, the same people who frustrate us on social issues, on Obamacare, on the kind of candidates we want, are the same people who are complicit in hollowing out America for their own short-term profit.
What is their anecdote for shipping manufacturing jobs to China and IT jobs to India? To import illiterate Mexicans to further increase consumer demand and, not incidentally, further depress wages which cannot be depressed by sending the jobs to China.
I'm feeling a little feisty and feel like starting a fight so I will point out that the one Republican politician for the last generations who saw all of this, complained of this, and actually ran for president on this was Pat Buchanan. Where was the Wall Street Journal and the establishment wing of the Republican Party concerning Pat Buchanan's candidacy? They borked him and everybody ran screaming, oh no he is a Nazi and an anti-Semite!
I live in what used to be Nazi land which is running a much healthier economy than we are in the USA. Small wonder the Germans took umbrage at American government's official criticism of the German economy. I do not see the "Nazis" here or the "anti-Semites" here sending so many jobs to China. If Germany has what it takes to save the world's leading economy back in the USA, give me more Nazis.

I am with you on Buchanan. He gets a lot of things right. When I get home I will post the portion of Buchanan's interview with Limbaugh from about ten years ago.

36 posted on 11/01/2013 1:53:12 PM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: raybbr; nathanbedford
Here is the part of the Limbaugh Letter that I transcribed eight years ago:

The following is an excerpt from The Limbaugh Letter. I transcribed it off the press. Rush interviews Pat Buchanan:

Rush: Let me go back to immigration. We know where we're headed. What needs to be done right now to stop this?

Buchanan: Three things. One, put a security fence along all the major crossing points at the border and use the National Guard in the other areas if necessary. Two, begin to enforce the employer sanctions against companies that chronically hire illegals. Three, expel every illegal alien who has been convicted of a misdemeanor or a felony. In addition, pass an immigration law which is generous, but which cuts us back to more reasonable levels of immigration and holds to that moratorium for about five years. It can done. But the hour's getting very late for preserving the unity of this country.

Rush: And, if we fail?

B: If you fail, you lose the country.

R: That's apocalyptic. Define that. What's losing the country?

B: If you get an overwhelming majority of Hispanics in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas these are decisive electoral votes. If those constituencies say, "We want an open border forever", I think we lose the country.

R: You're talking about illegals who end up voting.

B: No, all the children of these illegals are legal citizens. Eventually you could have a de facto loss of the American Southwest to Mexico.

R: I can't go to California without this becoming subject one, two and three.

B: Rush, every talk show I do it's No. 1. People cannot understand why the President will not enforce the immigration laws of the United States. If this were Clinton we'd impeach him.

R: I've gotten calls on my program from people in agribusiness who say, "If you roll back illegal immigration, be prepared for food prices to go up."

B: Tell them, "I'm prepared."

R: I said, "I'm already paying high taxes to support the social welfare programs for these illegals, who have access to the health care system, unemployment, and so on. It's already costing us." But that told me the problem is between two constituencies - the corporate contributors, who like cheap labor; and the average voter, who does not like it at all. That's the conflict.

B: It is. Again, go all the way back to the 50's even all the way back to the Civil War, and the great Republican era from 1860 to 1932. The interests of big business and manufacturing and of the workers used to be the same: "Look, we've got the greatest market in the world, we want the highest standard of living for our workers." As old Henry ford said, "I want my workers to be able to buy the cars they build." Both sides had tremendous interest in basically protecting the American market, in term of Americans having priority entry to it. Now, however, big business has moved so much of its manufacturing and production abroad that it has become the leading lobbyist for keeping the U.S. market open for dumping of foreign goods, bringing in foreign workers and the rest. So the interests of big business and workers - both of which were once Republican constituents - are now in conflict.

22 posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 3:35:19 PM by raybbr
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37 posted on 11/01/2013 3:12:24 PM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: raybbr

I would appreciate seeing that if you can.

Thanks.


39 posted on 11/01/2013 8:48:54 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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