Mormon church-owned company buys huge swath of Florida land

Orlando Sentinel ^ | November 7, 2013 | Kevin Spear

[Road Warrior ‘04]

Your words are well taken! I stopped reading after the first page of posts. The vitriol and hate, for Mormons, is despicable. Thank you for your post! I’m outta here...for this thread.

[Elsie]

The vitriol and hate, for Mormons, is despicable.

Did you get those one-way blinders for Smithmas last year?

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Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

 

 

 

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses

, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).

 

 

President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).

 

 

 

James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

 

 

 

President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

 

 

 

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

 

 

 

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

 

 

President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

[Matchett-PI]

It’s apparent you think the malice & hatred you hold resides outside your own head.

In hopes that you’ll lay off the Christians in the Mormon Church for a while, here’s another Christian “container” into which you can project (under the guise of love) that venom:

In Salt of the Earth, Ratzinger is asked how many ways there are to God. His answer may surprise you: “As many as there are people.”

For otherwise we wouldn’t be persons, nor could God be One.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2713145/posts?page=2062#2062

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Naturally there are many forms of stupid religion, for there is nothing touched by humans wonkers that cannot be made stupid. But at least religion as such does not exclude the possibility and priority of Intelligence, and therefore, Truth. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2713145/posts?page=2040#2040

[CodeToad]

GOSH, I BET YOU'RE ARROGANT ENOUGH TO THINK YOUR COMMENTS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT, HUH??

[Colofornian]

(Everybody thinks their public comments are of import...or do you just blabber mindlessly and aimlessly with a "who cares" attitude? Which is it for you?)

[greyfoxx39]

They are a repository of those values in an era when most of the rest of the country is losing them. I suspect God may be maintaining those values among them so there is an example remaining when the rest of the country comes to its senses.

Some folks here have swallowed the mormon propaganda wholesale!

I was born and raised in mormonism, have lived in several communities that were heavily populated and controlled by mormons, and I personally have know mormons who were/are drunks, wife beaters, thieves, pedophiles and most of all hypocrites! These same people would show up on the front row at church services, wearing their cloaks of piety.

When I was a youngster, I was molested by a mormon teacher who, even though his actions were known to many was never reprimanded by his church. My former father-in-law refused to rent his heavy equipment to the bishop because the bishop would cheat by running back the clocks on the equipment. There was always such a holier-than-thou attitude regarding the "word of wisdom" yet many smoked and had to have their coffee. There were several cases of adultery amongst the congregation that were known, but they were overlooked.

In short, to all you who think that all mormons are white as snow, they are no better than any other group of people...they just wear a false face to the world, and when these wonderful people are doing "good" deeds among you, keep one thing in mind: They want your membership...AND your money...because they are conditioned that "Every member is a missionary".

[svcw]

What?
They appear to be Christian, right after you say they are not.
mormonISM is NOT what it appears to be.
They “act” the part because they must earn their own salvation, nothing Christian about that.
“ACT” being the key word, and they are good at it.

[SZonian]

"They are a repository of those values in an era when most of the rest of the country is losing them. I suspect God may be maintaining those values among them so there is an example remaining when the rest of the country comes to its senses."

Mormons are no better or worse than any other segment of society. But you would have us believe they are somehow better, God's chosen few over the rest of Christianity? Christians exhibit none of these "values" that mormons are supposedly the "repository" for? That in order to exhibit these "values", a Christian must go to the mormons and get them?

[Elsie]

It’s apparent you think the malice & hatred you hold resides outside your own head.

It’s apparent you think the malice & hatred I posted that shows Mormon warts is something I've made up.

Let's assume you are right; and this messanger is a doofus (or other wonderful Mormon cuss word).

What say ye about the MESSAGE??

[Elsie]

In hopes that you’ll lay off the Christians in the Mormon Church for a while...

Oh HELL no!

THOSE are the folks I want OUT of Mormonism before it becomes to late!

[Elsie]

GOSH, I BET YOU'RE ARROGANT ENOUGH TO THINK YOUR COMMENTS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT, HUH??

I'll bet Mormons are glad that cold weather has finally arrived; so they can eat MEAT again...

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THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 89

 

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.

 

1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.

 

  1 A ^aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—

  2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the ^aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and ^bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

  3 Given for a principle with ^apromise, adapted to the capacity of the ^bweak and the weakest of all ^csaints, who are or can be called saints.

  4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of ^aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of ^bconspiring men in the last days, I have ^cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—

  5 That inasmuch as any man ^adrinketh ^bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.

  6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, ^apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.

  7 And, again, ^astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.

  8 And again, tobacco is not for the ^abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.

  9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

  10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome ^aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—

  11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with ^aprudence and ^bthanksgiving.

  12 Yea, ^aflesh also of ^bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used ^csparingly;

  13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be ^aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or ^bfamine.

  14 All ^agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;

  15 And ^athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.

  16 All grain is good for the ^afood of man; as also the ^bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—

  17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

  18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ^ashall receive ^bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;

  19 And shall ^afind ^bwisdom and great ^ctreasures of ^dknowledge, even hidden treasures;

  20 And shall ^arun and not be ^bweary, and shall walk and not faint.

  21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the ^adestroying angel shall ^bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.

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[Elsie]

I'll bet Mormons are glad that cold weather has finally arrived; so they can eat MEAT again...

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Well, 15% of them anyway.

Maybe THIS is why so few Mormons will get to be with the Father forever.

[Elsie]

Some folks here have swallowed the mormon propaganda wholesale!

And are choking on it!

[greyfoxx39]

In hopes that you’ll lay off the Christians in the Mormon Church

Mormonism is NOT Christian.

A cult of Christianity is a group of people, which claiming to be Christian, embraces a particular doctrinal system taught by an individual leader, group of leaders, or organization, Source: Alan Gomes, Cult: A Theological Definition, excerpt from "Unmasking The Cults"

Certain Christian doctrines constitute the core of the faith. Central doctrines include the Trinity, the deity of Christ, the bodily resurrection, the atoning work of Christ on the cross, and salvation by grace through faith.

These doctrines so comprise the essence of the Christian faith that to remove any of them is to make the belief system non-Christian. These are not mormon beliefs or doctrine.

Cult of Christianity

[Texas Songwriter]

Duke and Duke.

Is there a problem, Officers?

[manc]

agree with all of that .
I’d rather have them than the Yankee liberal snotty nosed elitist types moving here or the homosexuals who like to flaunt what they are sexually

[manc]

At least they would vote republican than socialist

[manc]

agree

[mountainfolk]

I get that Free Republic is your vehicle for punishing the Mormon church for your personal grievance against situations in your life. Perhaps there should be a permanent thread for you and your co haters where you can all spend your time airing complaints and hatred of that church without dragging every poster who is not anti Mormon into your wretchedness.

I am really very disgusted and annoyed that I am getting spammed by you and your co haters and request that you remove my name from your posting list.

[Colofornian]

Just saw this saying on a sign in a store today and thought of your comment: “Everyone is entitled to their own ridiculous opinion.” And radio financial talk show host today said its pc in this country to think that every is equal to everyone else’s. He said that it goes along with giving a trophy to everybody.