How much you wanna bet old NJ Schokowitz is a liberal?
Odds of him voting for a conservative? Slim to none—Christie Cream excluded cuz he aint conservative.
For Obamacare to survive, older folks need to die.
Obama promised “...to fundamentally change America.” He has.
The gift that keeps on giving.
Could it be possible that Old Ed Schokowitz could be votin’ R for the first time in his life come Nov 2014?
Good!
From AARP forum 08/12:
The TRUTH is...the medicare savings will add another 8-10 years of solvency to Medicare without touching benefits, while, according to the CBO, Medicare spending is expected to nearly double by 2020. Meanwhile, Medicare Advantage premiums are down and enrollment is up, according to HHS — hardly indicative of a plan that’s suffering due to the ACA. (Affordable Care Act)
The Romney campaign appears to be engaged in a pattern that involves creating and spreading a new and colossal Lie of the Week. Prior whoppers include the “Obama is disenfranchising military voters lie” (debunked) and the “Obama is gutting welfare reform lie” (also debunked).
By now, we all know what happened this week. On Sunday’s Meet the Press, right-wing Rich Lowry shouted down Rachel Maddow on Medicare, saying that “Obamacare” cuts $700 billion from the program.
Mitt Romney surrogate John Sununu appeared on CNN the next day and shouted down Soledad O’Brien with the same crap-on-a-stick. Specifically, he repeated the massive lie that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (the ACA or “Obamacare”) cuts $717 billion from Medicare, implying that benefits were cut.
Where is this LIE going to stop that started out as $500 billion now we’re up to to the $700 billions ?
It turns out that the $717 billion number that Sununu was screeching about on CNN was pulled out of a July 24 CBO memo about the House plan to repeal Obamacare. Doug Elmendorf explained, “Spending for Medicare would increase by an estimated $716 billion over that 2013-2022 period.” There’s nothing in there about benefit cuts or anything else the Republicans have said. Nothing.
From here, the viral lie infected the discourse like the Ebola virus.
Obama's taking money from the Medicare Advantage program to shore up ObamaCare ... another 'bait and switch' from democrats...
No, he said, "You can't be kicked out of your plan unless you can be kicked out of your plan."
My relatives are very concerned over this whole mess. Everyone is wondering what bad news is coming next.
The “deer in the headlights” moment has occurred throughout the ages, when Roman soldiers took your farm, or when the gestapo broke down your door, or when you get that letter dropping your health insurance unconditionally when you most need it.
Except, of course, near election time when the wail goes up that the Republicans will cut Medicare.
but, but, the DemocRATs ACTUALLY DID! No, that doesn't matter.
AARP is an accomplice to Obozocare. They signed on early to destroy HMOs as they stand to make a billions dollars shilling MediGap policies. I will never have anything to do with AARP.
This is also happening in Medicaid. So a large portion of Obama/Democrat voters in the "old and poor" demographics will be sacrificed for the greater good. Even a modest reduction of 4-5% in those demographics could swing elections to the conservative side.
I am not sure that's what he had in mind "for the greater good."
Whatever maggot-infested natural calamity befalls scum-of-the-earth Jonathan Gruber (and his employer) can't be too undeserved.
I can’t wait for them to Rostenkowski his ass. Obama will rue the day he messed with the old folks.
Every dead senior is 3 more Rat votes.
Not to worry, I’ve heard that Obama is going to give people allowances against purchases of dog food.
>>MIT professor Jonathan Gruber, architecht of the Massachusetts health insurance law that was the model for Obamacare, told the Daily Caller that seniors who stand to lose their doctors and Medicare Advantage plans must be sacrificed for the greater good.
“It is a tiny effect compared to the benefits of this law. There is small fraction of Americans who might need to change doctors or plans because of the law.”??
Spoken like a true Communist.
Bump
Interesting article describing how Obamacare policies are impacting Medicare/Medicare Advantage.
Several months ago, several talkshow hosts and guest commentators on news programs would say that Medicare was going to be severely impacted when Obamacare actually starts. However, none of them ever went into any details. Most of their commentaries involved what they expected to happen to non-Medicare young individuals and middle class, middle age families.
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Medicare Advantage has always been rather fluid since it began about 6 years ago.
In my state, there were originally about 8 different companies offering a total of some 40 different plans. At the end of each year, some plans/companies dropped out for the next year, and some new companies/plans were added. The net total seemed to be a few less companies/plans each new year.
For 2013, we had about 6 companies with various plans. Due to local medical refusing some and allowing others, the ‘real’ choices were limited to about 4 companies and a couple of plans from each.
For 2014, the company I used for the previous 3 years dropped out completely. Thus, I have to change to some other plan/company or return to regular Medicare. Looking at the options available, what plans had my regular doctor on its provider list, and what plans/companies the local doctor/hospital would accept, I was limited to 3 choices.
One choice had medical and drug coverage, but it had a $150/year deductible on drugs. My 4 prescriptions are generic, so I would barely reach the $150. Thus, most of my drugs would be out-of-pocket, even with drug coverage.
Another choice did not cover drugs, so I would have to have a separate drug policy which would be an additional premium cost each month. Medicare makes it mandatory to have approved drug coverage, either in a Medicare Advantage plan or in a separate drug plan.
Luckily, after checking with my doctor and local hospital, they were now accepting plans from a company they would not accept for the previous 4 years. One plan covers drugs without deductibles (medical nor drugs) and without additional premium cost over the regular mandatory Medicare Part B premium.
I fully expect for 2015, either Medicare Advantage will be gone or the premiums will be significantly more. We won’t know until the ‘Medicare and You 2015’ information is released in mid-September 2014.