If the people [of Missouri] come on us to molest us, we will establish our religion by the sword ... self defense?
A jihad is self-defense? Committing theft, arson and murder against innocent civilians is self-defense? Really?
There was no Mormon genocide; the Saints merely migrated to another location (Illinois) ... Leave or be killed. And you call it a migration?
Actually, the deal the Saints were offered was leave or face justice for your crimes. The Saints chose to quit Missouri ... barely going just across the Mississippi River to Quincy, Illinois for a few months and then north to Nauvoo, Illinois. At that time, land was abundant and in many cases free for homesteading. The Saints left peacefully and unimpeded, taking all of their possessions except for the consecrated goods they stole from gentiles, which were returned to their original rightful owners. And you call that a genocide? Really?
It has been well established that the LDS Church has a long, sordid history of deception to everyone including their members (something they call lying for the lord). They've been caught doing everything from making thousands of changes to sacred scripture ... to concealing evidence (e.g. Joseph Smith's original peep stone) ... to buying and then hiding items deemed embarrassing (e.g. Mark Hofmann's fabricated documents) ... to denying their official positions on various sacred relics (e.g. the Kinderhook Plates) ... to quietly changing major doctrine without explanation or discussion (e.g. Blacks in the Priesthood, the temple ceremony) ... to flat-out lies (e.g. we never really espoused polygamy, and we're Christians just like you).
I strongly recommend that, with an open mind, you study Mormon history from non-biased sources (e.g. source documents) and evaluate the evidence presented by historians who are generally held in high regard within their profession. I also recommend that while doing this you seek answers to these four questions:
Place it in perspective. Compare the numbers of martyrs ... a few thousand Mormons (at most) to millions of Christians. Also consider how they died ... brandishing weapons in war vs. burned alive, flayed alive, and tortured to death.
Consider the reasons given for Saints' persecution ... little things like bank fraud, theft, arson, murder, and sedition. Compare this to the reasons given for Christian persecution ... big things like their failing to worship pagan gods and their refusal to abandon their faith in their Lord.
Begin with the thousands robbed of their life savings and reduced to poverty in Ohio. Continue with the numbers of gentiles (including Indians) robbed and killed in Missouri, Illinois, and Utah. Be sure to include the various massacres (e.g. Mountain Meadows, Atkins, Bear River), and the soldiers killed defending their country.
Scroll up the page to here and look at the number of Saints that were beaten, castrated, and used up by the Danites (a.k.a. Nauvoo Legion and Mormon Militia) under the doctrine of blood atonement. Don't forget to include the six Mormon civil wars, and the Succession Crisis of 1844-47.
Here's one historical example: The Mormon church owned Deseret News didn't attempt to "set straight" the myth that Jacob Hawn -- the correct spelling, btw, for what the Mormon church referenced as "Haun's mill" for over 150 years -- "wasn't even a Mormon."
Source: Setting the record straight on the 'Hawn's' Mill Massacre
How many of you Mormons knew that? (Or didn't know that til DesNews finally decided in 2010 to acknowledge that?)
Zakeet: How much of the persecution did the Saints bring upon themselves?
And "persecution" isn't even the most appropo word...'cause a lot of it was hostile conflict...initiated by the Mormons. Let's go back to Hawn's Mill again (what Mormons erroneously misspelled as "Haun's Mill":
What happened 12 days before the Oct. 30, 1838 attack that left 17 Mormons dead (and 14 injured)?
Answer: On October 18, 1838, Joseph Smith, Hyrum Smith, Lyman Wight, D. W. Patten at the head of 40 men made a descent on Gallatin, the county seat of Daviess, and they burned the only store and stole their goods. Previous to the 25th of October a great part of the Mormons residing in Caldwell County had returned home with their dividend of plunder.
What happened 6 days before Hawn's Mill?
Answer: On October 25, 1838, the Battle of Crooked River: Mormon forces attacked (unknowingly?) the Missouri state militia under the command of Samuel Bogart. This incident became one of the principal points of conflicts in 1838 Missouri. The battle resulted in the death of three militia and the LDS leader, David Patten. One of the militia was taken prisoner by the Mormons.
Source: http://www.carm.org/religious-movements/mormonism/are-christians-persecuting-mormons
Mormons, are you so blinded by "faith-promoting" historical versions that you think the State of Missouri militia was just going to crumble because your beloved "Zion" was violently attacking state authorities?
“Actually, the deal the Saints were offered was leave or face justice for your crimes. “
What were their crimes?