Skip to comments.Obamacare adviser says healthcare website encountering new issues
Posted on 11/09/2013 9:19:34 PM PST by Lmo56
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Obama administration's HealthCare.gov adviser Jeffrey Zients said on Friday that the trouble-plagued federal healthcare website is improving, but that higher volumes of visitors are exposing new capacity and software issues.
In a conference call with reporters, Zients said progress this week has been marred by roadblocks. He described HealthCare.gov as being "a long way from where it needs to be."
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"No question, the web site WILL be up and running on Nov. 30th ..."
Jay Carney: “I overheard the president and advisor Jarrett suggesting a new computer virus, possibly some bird flu, stating that the matter had, unfortunately, recently turned into “an even bigger flustercluck.”
“There is no cause for concern. We urge you to remain clam.”
there is no way in the world that everything will be working on Nov 30
when that statement was made (Oct 25 approx), if they have all the changes ready to go, the time to nov 30 would not have been long enough to test such a complicated system
Mr Zeinst is getting a crash course in what happens when you put big IT projects into production w/o proper testing (in this case almost no testing)
once they get the website working better, they will get enough volume to expose the problems with the data hub, connections to insurance companies etc
we are watching one of the most spectacular big IT project fails of all time
aside from the website problem, I don’t see how they overcome the following.
my sister is on ssdi. she lives at, what we call in Massachusetts, elderly/disabled housing. I am her guardian, so i’m quite familiarly with her friends and neighbors.
what I can tell you is this, these people, both the disabled and the elderly (i’m not saying the elderly have not earned what they have), are totally taken care of by the government...housing, food stamps, medicare, obamaphone, ss checks. they have been taken care of for so long they have zero initiative to do anything on their own.
now, the people i’m referring to have medicare, so they’re not the ones who need oabamcare, but you can see that if they needed to, they wouldn’t even bother. they have had all ambition removed from their lives. they sit around all day (btw, let me be clear, im talking about the elderly, most of the so called disabled I’ve met would be perfectly capable of holding down a job if they were not catered to).
I apologize, I meant to say above “I am NOT talking about the elderly.
It's going to be the dumbest self-aware entity in the universe when it does.
‘Skynet knows dat a counter-attack by der Rooskies vill eliminate its enemies in dis country.’ The Terminator
Ah, there must be ... two typos.
It’s f’ing D-E-A-D. Kill the law. Now.
And Obama didn’t inherit this. He made it!
I’m wondering if the people in charge of “fixing” it, really don’t want it to be fixed. Maybe the fixers see the handwriting on the wall for their own personal health insurance.
But the numbskulls are still blaming Other than Democrats/non-Obama Youth for failing to enthusiastically fall on this sword, early and often.
They really believe that’s why it’s gone tits-up. It’s imperative to remember:
The kool-aid is strong in these ones, like SS in the bunker, like Cubs fans.
ObamaCare remind you of Mussolini and Hitler?
If they report to the public that the website has been fixed and all is well by NOV 30th then they just told the BIGGEST LIE of all.
Fixing this type of complexe interactive coding WITHOUT lengthy test periods ( 3 to 6 months ) for BOTH performance and SECURITY is just impossible. They made this statement at the time to simply keep the idea of Obozocare moving forward and alive. They made the statement without thinking in order to simply BUY SOME TIME.
Fixing this comprehensive level of online code designed for data gathering and complex secure interaction would be akin to my promising you that I could pull the engine out of your car and REBUILD it in 10 minutes and have it mounted back in, and that it ran and performed perfectly. A real pipe dream.
No question, he’ll be under the bus by Christmas
"Let me be clear. What I said was 'No question, the web site WILL be up and running on Nov. 30th ... if I could write code.' I'm sorry if you people don't hear everything I say."
Quick, somebody tell the boy-king!
Two evil fascists... tough choice.
Hey, as long as they make it by the second arbitrary deadline, then it’ll be a success. If they don’t, then there will be a third arbitrary deadline. Et cetera.
The fatal flaw to Obamacare is it puts all the eggs into one basket. If someone hacked into the system and erased the database, we all would be sucking wind.
Yeah...and that's just 2 components....
Just wait till they start issuing orders to the doctors to match client with the care required....and prescriptions....don't forget all those complex prescription orders.
I see not just amputations on the wrong limb....but on the wrong patient.
and don't expect quick response for a broken arm:
And so you have an acute appendix....?
Mark Wattson, 35, from Swindon may have been the victim of botched surgery after he had to have his appendix removed twice
To his shock, surgeons from the same team told him that not only was his appendix still inside him, but it had ruptured - a potentially fatal complication.
In a second operation it was finally removed, leaving Mr Wattson fearing another organ might have been taken out during the first procedure.
The blunder has left Mr Wattson jobless, as bosses at the shop where he worked did not believe his story and sacked him.
Mr Wattson told of the moment he realised there had been a serious mistake.
'I was lying on a stretcher in terrible pain and a doctor came up to me and said that my appendix had burst,' he said.
'I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I told these people I had my appendix out just four weeks earlier but there it was on the scanner screen for all to see.
'I thought, "What the hell did they slice me open for in the first place?"
'I feel that if the surgery had been done correctly in the first place I wouldn't be in the mess I am today. I'm disgusted by the whole experience.'
Mr Wattson first went under the knife on July 7 after experiencing severe abdominal pain for several weeks. He was discharged but exactly a month later he had to dial 999 after collapsing in agony. Mr Wattson
Mr Wattson was readmitted to the Great Western Hospital in Swindon after his appendix ruptured
Sit back and enjoy your Obamacare.
I would suggest....if you removed roughly half of the requirements, and just said....refer everyone to the insurance policies in their respective states, and have a form to identify yourself for the subsidy and how much it will be, then wrap that up and call it version one, and say it’s operational.
My guess is that we will go past 30 November, and around 10 December....they will note it’s operational. Course, it will freeze once you get beyond 10,000 people on it (my humble guess). So from that point until Christmas...the news media will try to spin the idea of success finally....but thousands will say it just doesn’t work.
Around early January, someone will finally tell the President (via CNN naturally), that they barely reached fifty percent of their intended goal. As of January 2014, we will have twice as many people now without healthcare....as we did when the whole mess started four years ago.
You can spin this as much as you want, but when you tell a guy that his monthly rate went from $550 to $850, and his deductible went from $3500 to $6000....things just don’t get comfy or acceptable. Most folks don’t have another $5000 in their pocket to spend wildly...even on health insurance. Even with this stupid subsidy....it all looks good until you get to the deductible business. Folks don’t have loose cash.
Bottom line? There would be a life lesson here for kids, political figures, or Presidents. When the government (any government) goes out to do something of a colossal nature...it’s better than a seventy-five percent chance that it will be screwed up in the details, the planning, the delivery, and the final solution. If you think small, compact, and limited...then it tends to work. Sadly, this lesson has been around for 2,000 years.
I have been on many software projects (making and testing). I could go on with the failures. But this is called FUBAR, epic fail.
Also, the testing team should never be part of the production team.
agree completely, start small, test it first
but, politicians never want to hear that, they never want realistic timelines, they want instant gratification on projects that promote their own “glory”
Bottom line? There would be a life lesson here for kids, political figures, or Presidents. When the government (any government) goes out to do something of a colossal nature...its better than a seventy-five percent chance that it will be screwed up in the details, the planning, the delivery, and the final solution. If you think small, compact, and limited...then it tends to work. Sadly, this lesson has been around for 2,000 years.
Brilliant enough to bear repeating.
I think the proper term is “fustercluck”. Speling is importint.
Today I laughed so hard due to the fact on facebook on Healthgov a lady posted that she signed up online on October 2, now she is worried that it may not have gone thru. So she asked everyone if she should reapply online.
Someone responded by saying “Just like voting...Apply early and often” ROFL
I wonder if these state counts included people who may have reapplied?
Someone also responded to her saying “apply often then call 1-800-F U ROFL.
Well, Mussolini made the trains run on time. In Italy, that's no small achievement. FUBOcare doesn't make me think of him at all.
Hitler created a well-organized and efficient way of dealing with undesirable people, which is one of the primary goals of FUBOcare.
So, yes, I think "Hitler" is the correct answer.
They already spent $600 million on this colossal fail. Spending even another dime is repulsive.
Pull the plug.
I’d like to help you out, too. Which way did you come in? ;^)
“Fluster”: make someone agitated or confused. See: Obamacare.
Fuster ain’t a word, unless yer talkin’ the Addam’s family Uncle Fuster.
“We’ll have to try to fix it to find out what’s wrong with it.”
The story wreaks of gross incompetence.
I have a good story. Several days ago I underwent eye surgery.
Everyone I came in contact with prior to and up to surgery asked me my name, date of birth, and why I was having surgery. I had a sticker placed under the eye to be worked on and magic marker marks on it. It was done in such a manner they could not possibly screw it up.
Fustercluck is the polite way of saying clusterf**k.