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Obama: Okay, This Time You Can Really Keep Your Plan
New York Magazine ^ | 11/14 | Jonathan Chait

Posted on 11/14/2013 6:45:48 PM PST by nickcarraway

In response to the raging Democratic freak-out in Congress, President Obama announced an administrative plan that would putatively permit people in the individual insurance market to keep their current plans. It’s impossible to say definitively what Obama’s proposal will do, but the most likely (and best-case) scenario is: very little.

The shorthand explanation for what’s going on here is that everybody — the insurance companies, members of Congress, and Obama — is bullshitting. The longhand explanation is a lot more complicated.

Insurance companies cancel their individual plans all the time. The Affordable Care Act grandfathered in current plans, but that grandfathering mostly depended on insurance companies deciding to keep those plans going, and few of them did: They decided instead to phase out their old plans and create new ones in the Obamacare exchanges. That’s why, even though Obama knew that his health-care law would disrupt the individual market, he didn’t expect the wave of cancellation notices that people have received. In his press conference today, Obama said that he expected that the provisions in Obamacare to grandfather in existing individual policy holders would work, and they didn’t.

Republicans in Congress, trailed by panicky Democrats, are trying to exploit people’s consternation by either allowing (in the case of Republican Fred Upton’s bill) or requiring (in the case of Democrat Mary Landrieu’s) insurance companies to continue these plans. But they are probably bullshitting about this, too: Insurance companies say it’s way too late for them to start reissuing plans for 2014 they hadn’t planned to issue.

Obama’s plan is to let people reup their individual market plans, if the insurers go along with it. Will many insurers go along with it? Probably not, but experts aren’t exactly sure. If not, then all the keep-your-plan promises floating around — Obama’s, the Democratic plans, the Republican plans — are closing the barn doors after the horses have fled.

To the extent any of these proposals actually would work, their effect would be harmful. Most people who have individual insurance now get that insurance because they’re really healthy. Draining them out of the exchanges would leave the exchanges with a sicker pool of customers, eventually driving up rates.

Now, that wouldn’t be a disaster in the short run. Obamacare creates protections for insurance companies that get stuck with sicker customers over the first few years. (A good, short explainer for how this works can be found here.) That would protect the system from the dreaded actuarial “death spiral," but would also cost the government money.

Does Obama’s plan solve the policy problem of people losing their plans? Probably not — the main mechanism is to let Obama throw the blame to insurance companies (many of whom, as noted, originally threw the blame at Obama.) Does it solve the political problem of angry individual market customers? Again, probably not — many and perhaps most people won’t be able to keep their individual plans. Democrats also want the chance to take an affirmative vote to “fix” Obamacare, and an administrative ruling doesn’t let them do that. Obama’s announcement mainly leaves the law in the same place it’s been for a month and a half: waiting to see if the administration can fix the website.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aca; healthcare; lawlessnation; obama; obamacare; obamalies

That's the ticket!

1 posted on 11/14/2013 6:45:48 PM PST by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 11/14/2013 6:47:53 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Yup. After you go through all the hassle of “re-registering” for a year and then get booted again. Unless of course somebody moved a comma or something in the plan. Then it’s back to the obiecare fiasco.


3 posted on 11/14/2013 6:49:08 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: nickcarraway

Jonathon Chait is full of it.


4 posted on 11/14/2013 6:50:11 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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Like Lucy and the football.


5 posted on 11/14/2013 6:51:03 PM PST by DemforBush (Leave the gun, take the catnip toy.)
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It’s impossible to say definitively what Obama’s proposal will do

Don't worry, I am sure the president has done a bunch of computer simulations and financial analysis. He knows all of the unintended consequences of his actions.

6 posted on 11/14/2013 6:52:26 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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“The shorthand explanation for what’s going on here is that everybody — the insurance companies, members of Congress, and Obama — is bullshitting.”

I read this, then went up to see who the author is, Jonathan Chait, and that was it for me.


7 posted on 11/14/2013 6:55:28 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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0bama just did exactly the same thing that James O’Keefe caught the 0bamaCare navigators doing. He told the insurance companies that they could just break the law if they want to.


8 posted on 11/14/2013 7:08:32 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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Obama is the new Sham-Wow guy.


9 posted on 11/14/2013 7:18:13 PM PST by JimSEA
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10 posted on 11/14/2013 7:37:15 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Lucy is getting ready to pull the football, AGAIN!!


11 posted on 11/14/2013 7:42:21 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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So, everybody is bullshitting!

Finally, I found an article about Obamacare that has something in it that is indisputably true.


12 posted on 11/14/2013 8:01:12 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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Yeah, you can keep your plan until after the 2014 mid term elections...


13 posted on 11/14/2013 8:22:14 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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You can’t keep what’s already been cancelled, sfb.


14 posted on 11/14/2013 8:30:41 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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I spent some time over there at NYMAG tweeking liberals on this issue. There are in full retreat over there. It is a fun thing to see.


15 posted on 11/14/2013 9:14:50 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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I meant tweaking. Tweeking means something else entirely. LOL.
I suppose that this Obama care fiasco may cause a few liberal to literally tweek as a result.


16 posted on 11/14/2013 9:17:23 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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You were twerking?


17 posted on 11/14/2013 9:24:30 PM PST by nickcarraway
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No, that is something else entirely.


18 posted on 11/14/2013 9:46:17 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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19 posted on 11/15/2013 12:49:46 AM PST by clearcarbon
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You can really keep your plan, except for the millions who have already lost their plan; and the millions more who have letters ready to mail explaining how their plans are no longer available because the plans don't meet ACA "standards" and would be illegal to continue to offer. You folks are just screwed, but it was a "well-intended" screwing.

Let me clarify, I, in my Supreme Won-ness, have edicted that you can really keep your plan even though it is not true.

20 posted on 11/15/2013 4:42:33 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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