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To: oldenuff2no

I’ll take your bet. 40Billion:1 versus 10^161:1

That means there wouldn’t be enough money in the entire world to pay your bet off to me.

As discussed in various abiogenesis threads such as this one

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2986560/replies?c=62

Oops. Starting with 1/10^23 is far too generous. It’s 1/10^161.

http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/creation/crea-evol.html

DeNouy provides another illustration for arriving at a single molecule of high dissymmetry through chance action and normal thermic agitation. He assumes 500 trillion shakings per second plus a liquid material volume equal to the size of the earth. For one molecule it would require “10^243 billions of years.” Even if this molecule did somehow arise by chance, it is still only one single molecule. Hundreds of millions are needed, requiring compound probability calculations for each successive molecule. His logical conclusion is that “it is totally impossible to account scientifically [naturally] for all phenomena pertaining to life.”32

Even 40 years ago, scientist Harold F. Blum, writing in Time’s Arrow and Evolution, wrote that, “The spontaneous formation of a polypeptide of the size of the smallest known proteins seems beyond all probability.”33

Noted creation scientists Walter L. Bradley and Charles Thaxton, authors of The Mystery of Life’s Origin: Reassessing Current Theories, point out that the probability of assembling amino acid building blocks into a functional protein is approximately one chance in 4.9 × 10191.34 “Such improbabilities have led essentially all scientists who work in the field to reject random, accidental assembly or fortuitous good luck as an explanation for how life began.”35 Now, if a figure as “small” as 5 chances in 10191 is referenced by such a statement, then what are we to make of the kinds of probabilities below that, which are infinitely less? The mind simply boggles at the remarkable faith of the materialist.

According to Coppedge, the probability of evolving a single protein molecule over 5 billion years is estimated at 1 chance in 10161. This even allows some 14 concessions to help it along which would not actually be present during evolution.36 Again, this is no chance.


94 posted on 11/20/2013 2:20:37 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Life is easier to do than you know.

In a methane atmosphere, you can add a little lightning and hydrocarbons will rain out of the sky.

These hydrocarbons will float on the surface of water.

Add some splashing due to wave action and you get spheriods with water on the inside of a hydrocarbon shell.

Do this in a tide pool and you get a little chemistry experiment going.

So how many tide pools are there ? I don’t know but maybe trillions.


104 posted on 11/20/2013 10:52:08 PM PST by staytrue
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