Just one more....HIDDEN IN PLAIN VIEW: The Zapruder Film and the Shot that Missed

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/scearce.htm ^ | November 27th, 2007 | Kenneth R. Scearce

[ReaganÜberAlles]

A newly published theory (2007) about the Kennedy assassination demands that we re-examine the Zapruder film, more closely than ever before.

[BeadCounter]

If John Hinckley was Oswald, who was Ruby in the attempted Reagan assassination??

[BeadCounter]

Lefty God wants to abolish the Federal Reserve and Cut Taxes. Ok.

[BeadCounter]

I think Michael Medved said that on his show too Friday or Thursday, fielding questions about the assassination.

[politicianslie]

The NOVA show link you posted is excellent in what it presented but it fails to prove anything, it just says XYZ is possible.

Is it possible to prove what happened?

The answer is yes but the show, like all other books and documentaries fails to do it. Here's how: There are two ways to determine the timing of the shots that were fired. NOVA touches on this but fails like all others do to sort out the details. If you look at almost any source, you will NOT get the right answers. It turns out there are errors that were made during the HSCA investigation that the show only touches on.

Obviously if the time between shots is the same in different methods, it means that both of the methods are valid. In this case, the two methods are the Zapruder film and the audio recording. Let's look at the Zapruder film first.

The first time we can definitely determine a reaction to a shot is Zapruder frame 224 (the show says 225 but either is close enough). And obviously JFK was shot in the head at Z frame 313. The film speed was about 18.3 frames per second. A simple calculation shows the time between those two shots is approximately 4.8 seconds.

Looking at the following figure for the acoustical evidence analysis it ALSO shows that two of the shots were fired 4.8 seconds apart.

What is the probability that two independent ways to measure the time between shots would show the same time? The time of 4.8 seconds common to the Zapruder film and the audio recording obviously suggests that the acoustical data did capture the sounds of the gunfire in Dealey Plaza. Search the over 1000 books and documentaries and you will not find this fact anywhere.

The acoustical data analysis suggests that shot #4 was the one fired from the right front which is obviously the one that anyone would align with the one that hit JFK in the head at Zapruder frame 313. Looking at the acoustical data, it shows the last shot was fired 0.7 seconds after the JFK fatal head shot. What happens in the Zapruder film 0.7 Seconds AFTER JFK is shot in the head?

These two frames (Z224 and Z227) are about 0.1 seconds apart. How did Connally's head move so fast?

The acoustical evidence helps answer that question. The acoustical analysis used a technique called echo correlation analysis. It gave the timing of the shots but it also gives probabilities of the LOCATION OF THE SHOOTER. Shot #4 was fired from the right front and Shot #5 was the last shot fired from the Texas School Book Depository.

Per the acoustical evidence and the Zapruder film, here is what happened during the last two shots.

Z224(or 5): Connally reacts to a shot

4.8 seconds later

Z313 JFK is shot from behind with a bullet fired from the right front (grassy knoll)

0.7 seconds

Z325 The last (3rd shot from TSBD) shot fired from behind misses JFK's head and hits Connally in the back bending him over.

Here is another reason that makes more sense than what they showed on NOVA:

1. Connally said after he heard the first shot fired he turned to look over his right shoulder, he didn't see anything and as he was turning back toward his left he felt a blow to his back and it bent him over. Connally is NOT bent over until frame 325 when the acoustical evidence indicates the last shot was fired.

As Connally was turning to look to his right, he has no blood on his shirt and he obviously does not look like a man who has a exit wound in his chest the size of a baseball. Where is the blood? How did he turn (before JFK is shot in the head)? The answer is simple: Connally was not shot in the back until a split second AFTER JFK was shot in the head exactly as the acoustical evidence indicates. Not one of the facts presented here was discussed on NOVA. WHY? Because it invalidates virtually everything they presented.

How did Governor Connally turn around in his seat with an exit wound in his chest the size of a baseball? The answer is he didn't, he was not shot in the back until a split second after the JFK fatal head shot.

Continuing on and using the acoustical evidence and the Zapruder film together, it is possible to determine a unique solution. Unique? Nothing else is possible when you look at the two forms of evidence together.

Finding that the acoustical evidence is valid is much more significant than what you might at first think. It proves for example that a conspiracy killed JFK. It proves that the US government forged evidence. It proves that it wasn't just a conspiracy, it was a powerful conspiracy composed of people who could forge evidence and confuse the investigators. When you put this all together, you can finally know WHO and then it quickly leads to WHY.

Showing how to PROVE that a conspiracy killed JFK

[BeadCounter]

I grasp about half of your post this late Sunday night and will have to mull over it. Interesting.

[ansel12]

This conspiracy stuff sure brings out the nuts.

The lefty publicity machine, sure knew what they were doing when that commie shot JFK.

[Windflier]

Thanks for the detailed reply, John, but I don’t buy a single bit of it.

Sorry, but basic physics is what it is, and doesn’t take a phd or rocket scientist to understand. We’re talking Newtonian principles of action and corresponding reaction that any child can comprehend.

[BeadCounter]

Just keeping this short, sure, I understand totally what you say, a bullet to the rear of the head could at first push the head forward as we are seeing in 312, 313, But inside the head and up in the temple area at the side of the head, the bullet basically explodes, pushes that front/top skull area out and that would create a force to push the head back. That's how I see it. Also, this exploding bullet might be well a different kind of bullet from the "Single Bullet" (Full Metal Jacket) that stayed in tact. That is what the Mortal Error thesis is, doesn't mean a unique bullet has to act a certain way, maybe it could do both but that doesn't seem as likely.

[cynwoody]

Yes, Ruby knew he was terminal, I lived through those times, the fact he had cancer was known and reported on the news almost immediately, and he died 4 years after killing Oswald, 4 years is a short time.

Dr. Jay Sanford doesn't mention an earlier diagnosis in this news conference on Ruby's condition, held December 12, 1966 at Parkland Hospital:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyhEPxhIYZE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddH5LuBFSCw

It appears that, far from believing he was going to die of cancer before he shot Oswald, Ruby actually believed he had been injected with cancer while in jail!

[calex59]

Well, I remember the news of the times and he clearly knew he had cancer. Believe what you like.

Case in point, if he thought he was injected with cancer in jail doesn't that say that he thought they had reason for doing so? He didn't of course believe that but it would mean he thought someone wanted him dead, if he actually thought that, someone other than the government.

[PhilDragoo]

If the fatal shot(s) came from the front, how are Gov. Connolly's wounds explained?

Connally was hit by two bullets from the Dal-Tex Building.

The shot which hit the curb at James Tague's feet, which chipped the concrete which cut his cheek, noticed by a police officer, was likely fired from the Dal-Tex Building.

There was a crossfire with coordinated volleys and some use of suppressors of the type designed by Mitch WerBell, later dba Sionics.

[nikos1121]

No one wants to admit the long gun theory. Oswald killed Kennedy.

I know we hate that idea, esp the liberals, but Oswald, a communist killed Kennedy. There was ample time, and the angle perfect for Oswald to knock off the number of shots he did.

He was a loner...he worked with no one.

THe autopsy also supports this. IT was ini the AMA journal. All the doctors were there and disproved this nonsense about them not be allowed to do their work.

[nikos1121]

I think Ruby killed Oswald at the sheeer last moment. He was there by chance. He had no mob connections to Oswald.

People don’t want to believe that a communist killed a liberal president...plus there’s money to be made with conspiracies.

BTW, I recall back in the 80s duck hunting with some FBI guys, who laughed about all this. They were tracking Oswald thru Mexico. There was no doubt that he was the shooter.

[nikos1121]

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[John S Mosby]

Not basic physics— basic neurophysiology, and can be demonstrated with lots of other injuries. It isn’t Newtonian— the neck and back muscles work reflexively. Reams of medical texts on this.

The 1st missed shot is quite interesting, and highly understandable and believable. Two shots, both aligned and made easier by the stabilty of the target even as they moved away. Snipers can talk for hours about this— the pros.

And in re: the acoustic six shot claim, the signatures don’t match. Always keep in mind that the left HAS to have a conspiracy to keep this rolling, since they can’t accept a commie (or commie conspiracy, which I’m certainly willing to accept vs. the other full employment horsecrap peddled by the Camelot memorial assn.).

[John S Mosby]

The reflex of neck muscle pulling the head back is due to involuntary motion in response to the impact, particularly inside the skull. You and some folks get this— it is always laughable to see movies and TV impacts, that “throw” people backwards (with the help of a cable harness on the stunt double) but real world films of people getting shot, with lots of different ammo, show impact reflex response toward the origin.

Interesting idea about an exploding round, which KGB and other spec ops people use/used (but wouldn’t all the rounds be exploding and the missed one highly noticeable, from any direction/). Not trying to be gross, but human heads are hard-shelled watermelons, that respond even to FMJ rounds by “exploding” and the frame 313 shows skull frags, or at least one large one going straight up (and lots of studies done on the tracks of this and brain tissue- again horrific stuff but seriously looked at). An exploding round;(ref. 50 cal afghan and iraq head shot films— which are hard to find and horrifying to watch)— the entire head disappears.

Anyway- if there was a conspiracy— it was one that could be kept, and this would require a state like Cuba or USSR to do and keep it viciously quiet— even until today. Really, would Russia ever want it out they did this? They have to have our money to function— not so much anymore though.

[Windflier]

Not basic physics— basic neurophysiology

You keep telling yourself that, sport. The known laws of physics apply everywhere but Kennedy's head. It's magic.

[AppyPappy]

All the conspiracy theories regarding multiple shooters are hampered by an obvious problem. How could a shooter on the grassy knoll go unnoticed? He shot the President and no one noticed?

[politicianslie]

He was a loner...he worked with no one. The autopsy info supports this.....

You can believe whatever you want but unfortunately, what you believe has been proven to be wrong.

This video shows that Connally says "the force of the bullet (to his back) bent him over. When is Connally bent over? Connally talks about his turn to his right after hearing the first shot and then while turning back toward his left, he is bent over by the force of the bullet to his back. Connally is not bent over until a split second after JFK is shot in the head.

The only way that what I show you can be true is if the US government forged, lied, altered, destroyed evidence and harassed witnesses to arrive at a lone gunman fired three shots conclusion. Of course, at first glance, the BANG-BANG scenario I show you does NOT pass anybody's smell test and surely must be false. The reason that the pack of lies even 50 years later is still being talked about is because it isn't doesn't work no matter how much hand waving fools (like Vince Bugliosi) do.

The bullet had enough momentum to bend Connally over

The video also shows that a bullet has sufficient momentum to bend Connally over, as the previous shot a split second earlier had sufficient momentum to knock JFK's head backwards when he was shot in the head directly away from the gunman. The main reason this lie has lived so long is that people have tried to make the evidence fit together when in reality there are a pack of lies and forgeries being used to attempt to prove something. If you use garbage as your basis, you will get garbage for answers. Other videos I have up for "0.7 Seconds to Conspiracy" show how to prove it is true using mathematics. If the US government's autopsy information is correct, it means the laws of probability were violated repeatedly in the JFK assassination.

[John S Mosby]

I’m not a “sport”. A professional with a considerable bit of knowledge about this, and in no way do I need to tell myself anything. What I’ve told you is well-established in forensic criminal investigation. All the laws of physics are in place and being obeyed, in everything I describe, aided by muscular and neural reflex. Single sourcing the concept of head movement from a “movie of official reference” is the first error of the lay public, which does provide significant profits for the leftist conspiracy nuts.
To the extent anyone wants to satisfy themselves beyond an emotional need to believe anything but what has been examined generationally, with exponential increases in technical knowledge yielding the same conclusion- a single skilled lone shooter and three shots (cause of death one FMJ rifle round to the cranium) — there are serious scholarly works in this area available in major medical journals of forensics. Most of the mystery about this death was caused by RFK controlling the autopsy, trying to protect JFK’s “other” medical conditions (to include incurable gonnorhea and Addison’s disease which had destroyed his adrenal glands). A conspiracy?- Castro had a very good reason to “help” this lone commie psycho with limited resources, assisted by Marcello (who was pissed at the US for being deported and copped the Castro assassination program to the Cubans in retaliation). A better question is that if the FBI had photos of oswald at/in the Russian embassy in Mexico City and were following him— why did they not house arrest him to be safe prior?