Posted on 11/23/2013 11:25:22 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Today, the Philadelphia City Council voted unanimously to ban the manufacturing of guns by 3-D printers, making Philly the first city to do so. Which is interesting, because the author of the bill, Kenyatta Johnson, isn’t aware of of any local gun-printing 3-D printers. ”It’s all pre-emptive,” says Johnson’s director of legislation Steve Cobb. “It’s just based upon internet stuff out there.” We would hereby like to claim credit for this legislation by pointing to Nick Vadala’s comprehensive May 10th piece on guns made by 3-D printers. It reads, in part:
People have been manufacturing their own guns for hundreds of years, and we’re not exactly at the point where a 3-D printed gun can replace a standard zip gun as a down-and-dirty, DIY instrument of crime. Think of it like this: Your average 3-D printer costs anywhere from $1,500 to $8,000 and up, plus the cost of printing materials. Your average handgun could go for as little as $300 or less, even on the black market. A zip gun is either free or nearly so, and anyone with any mechanical ability can make one. Bombs, like the ones used recently in Boston, are frequently entirely homemade and constructed of legal materials. So, really, a 3-D printed piece isn’t exactly a better option to do wrong right now.
OK, maybe Johnson’s office didn’t base their legislation on Nick’s post, considering his entire point was that 3-D gun regulation was just a bunch of political grandstanding. But as Nick also points out, we’re a tech-savvy city, and it’s not inconceivable that some bored, semi-employed entrepreneur in Kensington that doesn’t follow City Council hearings tries to make one of these himself.
Pennsylvania is a very 2A friendly state. It's an NFA state, so machine guns are legal, with the appropriate Federal paperwork. Anyone could go to WalMart and fill a shopping cart full of guns for less than the cost of a 3D printer.
Likely just an attempt to divert attention from the fact that the city is quickly going bankrupt, and it's elected leaders are clueless about finding any solutions.
For what that printer cost, you could buy thousands of real 1911s.
The proprietors of The Weapons Shops of Isher laugh at this hollow gesture.
Here is the code:
TITLE 18
PA CRIMES CODES
§6120. Limitation on the Regulation of Firearms and Ammunition.
(a) General rule. No county, municipality or township may in any manner regulate the lawful ownership, possession, transfer or transportation of firearms, ammunition or ammunition components when carried or transported for purposes not prohibited by the laws of this commonwealth.
That’s correct. State law *expressly* preempts any and all local ordinances.
They're not at all clueless. They're living like princes and stuffing their wallets.
Well, Phil, good luck with that.
My PA CCW is no good in Philly; I need a special City permit to carry there. Reason #1 I avoid the craphole and stay well west of that place.
What a jack ass. A laser printer capable of layering metal costs $600,000.
It's far cheaper to buy a multi spindle bar lathe, a gun drill machine and a small CNC vert mill.
Ignoramus.
That law is designed to protect the Philly population when they mug you or play the knockout game.
Got that right. I took my 89-yr old Dad (WWII decorated Battle of The Bulge Vet) to Rep Gillespie’s CCW Class (300 people) 2 weeks ago, and all LEOs and lawmakers there said “avoid that screwed-up craphole at all costs”. Beautiful and safe place back in 50s & early 60s when the Mob ran it; now it’s hell-on-earth run by lib-dem filth.
Perhaps the idiots on the Philly City Council can next ban rice cookers and nails since those were the materials of choice used in the Boston Bombing. God, these people are stupid!
“I need a special City permit to carry there. Reason #1 I avoid the craphole and stay well west of that place.”
I think you are mistaken.
“Pennsylvania LTCF’s are available to both residents and non-residents and are valid for 5 years. For residents, the applications are handled by their county sheriff’s office, with the exception of Philadelphia where they are handled by the Gun Permits & Tracking Unit of the Philadelphia Police Department. It should be noted that permits issued by one county must be honored by all counties including Philadelphia regardless of rumors to the contrary.”
http://www.pafoa.org/law/carrying-firearms/concealed-carry
It may be good advice to stay out of Philadelphia, but most CCW permits in the nation are good there.
If you don't sell them you can make them and if you don't make full auto weapons. If a guy has a old fashioned metal lathe and other machine tools(and know how to use them) making a functional gun isn't that difficult.
Things are changing, but they will still make it costly for you:
http://articles.philly.com/2013-06-21/news/40121137_1_florida-loophole-alloway-gun-permit-unit
http://www.philadelinquency.com/?p=2966
They told us, in no uncertain terms, to avoid Philly, since the laws were still not in compliance with the rest of PA.
The ENTIRE Philly city council needs to get out of their chambers and walk up Broad Street for a three miles (alone and without security).
When they can do this without fear in the day/night THEN they can waste time for silly votes like this.
Why can’t they just ban crime?
Big gov should fear the people more for 3D printed IEDs, not guns that require a human sponsor to operate. IEDs don't even need explosives. A flying plastic bayonet that seeks out 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit could ruin a central planning bureaucrat's whole day.
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