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Mitch McConnell Declares War On Conservatives
Conservative HQ ^ | 12/02/13 | CHQ Staff

Posted on 12/02/2013 1:30:23 PM PST by xzins

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To: xzins
The Libertarians try, but they need their platform tweaked to be pro-life, pro-defense, and within reason pro-law and order.

The Libertarians generally argue that if governments kept their nose out of places they didn't belong, their stances on many issues wouldn't matter. If, for example, parents could without government involvement readily send their children to whatever schools best reflected their values, the question of what values should be taught in school would be removed from the political arena. Philosophically, the argument is generally reasonable, though in some cases I don't think it holds (for example, libertarians claim that unwanted immigration wouldn't be a problem were it not for government handout programs which shouldn't exist in the first place; I would posit that while such programs may cause immigration to be a bigger problem than it would be otherwise, they are not the *only* problem, and the need for border security would exist even without them).

Unfortunately, many Libertarians seem to think that if the behavior forbidden by law X wouldn't be a problem were it not for Y, and if Y should be eliminated, then the fact that Y should be eliminated means X should be considered unnecessary, even while Y--and its associated problems--continue to exist. While I used to consider myself Libertarian, the way in which they prioritize their efforts seems inconsistent with what they claim to be their most important stated goals.

Still, your reference to "law and order" is interesting. I would posit that true conservatives should be pro-law-and-order, but should recognize that policies which would undermine the Constitution--even when put forth by so-called "law-and-order" politicians--promote neither law nor order. Things like asset forfeiture might have been intended to improve police effectiveness in the fight against crime, but encourage police to prioritize their resources according to the value of assets that could be seized from a suspect, rather than the extent to which the suspect endangers the public. That's not to suggest that cops simply ignore criminals who don't have any assets that are worth seizing, but policies that create incentives for government officials to do the wrong thing are dangerous. Even if they don't immediately cause officials to start doing the wrong thing, they'll often start officials down a slippery slope which in many cases could and should have been avoided entirely.

41 posted on 12/02/2013 4:16:01 PM PST by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: Stingray
“Mitch McConnell is in trouble"

Have you told the people of KY this: probably news to them?

42 posted on 12/02/2013 4:16:13 PM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: B.O. Plenty

I definitely intend to boycott the U.S. Senate race in TX in November 2014, but not the governor’s race even though Greg Abbott is running thus far an abysmal campaign.


43 posted on 12/02/2013 4:17:53 PM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: B.O. Plenty

I don’t know.. I’d rather do battle with someone trying to shoot me in the face than someone I thought was on my side who stabs me in the back.


44 posted on 12/02/2013 4:19:49 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

I am pretty sure the house was under rat control at the time.


45 posted on 12/02/2013 4:20:53 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

wait.

never mind.

It is being funded by a pub house.


46 posted on 12/02/2013 4:21:17 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Theodore R.; Stingray
“Mitch McConnell is in trouble"

He probably is.

But, unfortunately, Bevin probably won't be the one to benefit from it.

McConnell's declaration of war vs conservatives could well lose him enough votes to make the Democrat a winner in the general.

47 posted on 12/02/2013 4:24:00 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: B.O. Plenty
You have to know that the "worst" Republican is light years better than the "best" Democrat...

That may be true of the worst Republican who would be worthy of the name, but RINOs who run as Republicans are far more damaging than Democrats. The difference is not merely one of degree--a squishy Republican may be politically unable to openly support conservative policies, but be happy if other politicians are able to push them. By contrast, a RINO, recognizing that his ability to "work with" Democrats will only be useful as long as the Democrats and their policies remain politically viable, will do all he can to ensure nothing undermines that viability. If the implementation of a conservative policy and its success would make the public see the moral bankruptcy of those who had opposed it, RINOs will do everything possible to prevent such a policy from seeing the light of day.

A RINO may not overtly declare himself do be the enemy of conservatives, but that doesn't imply that he has any real value as an ally. RINOs are good at offering support in cases where none is needed, but that doesn't mean they'll have any value in cases that matter.

Ultimately, it is going to be necessary to challenge the notion that a presidential appointee's declaration (approved by 51 Senators) that something is Constitutional magically makes it so. If something is unconstitutional, the Court is duty-bound to declare it so. The Court's failure to do so would not make the action legitimate, but merely demonstrate judges' willingness to behave illegitimately. Such a challenge will be much easier if the "balancing vote" is cast by someone who has been consistently condemned by Republicans as having zero interest for the rule of law.

48 posted on 12/02/2013 4:49:23 PM PST by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: B.O. Plenty

The worst Republicans are indistinguishable from Democrats


49 posted on 12/02/2013 4:54:10 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: lee martell

“...Let him dare to switch parties and join all his new friends...”

Worked well for the late Senator from PA - Arlin Spect(at)or. McConnell is a political doofus.


50 posted on 12/02/2013 5:07:57 PM PST by Susquehanna Patriot (U Think Leftist/Liberals Still Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: B.O. Plenty

“...and vote for the winner of the primaries in the gen election.”

I hear you, ...but many Rinos not only leave the herd, but actively work against the party nominee. Not sure if you were around in ‘80 when Reagan was despised by RINOs,...


51 posted on 12/02/2013 5:13:33 PM PST by Susquehanna Patriot (U Think Leftist/Liberals Still Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: xzins

bitchy mitchy go bye-bye


52 posted on 12/02/2013 6:56:28 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: anoldafvet

Remember, it was Mitch McConnell who said repealing Obamacare is an “impossible dream.”

I can’t imagine what real patriots would have done to this traitor 200+ years ago.


53 posted on 12/02/2013 7:34:21 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("There's always free cheese in a mousetrap." - Marine Col. Peter Martino)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot
One of my early memories was of FDR's funeral..cause my grampa liked the old creep because of the "new deal"....so yes, I was around for Reagan...I already had been married 25 years and my children were getting out of high school.

I remember well the RINO's war against Reagan, but he won thus all of us won..even Tip, George HW, and the boys.

But I still stand beside my statement about the difference between bad R's and "good" D's....

Just take the AFA, for example...not ONE R...good, or bad..voted for this thing, and the "best" D..Joe Manchin voted for it...

Take out the RINO's in the primaries if you can...We are stuck, are we not, with who put themselves out there to run.

DO NOT STAY HOME OR VOTE DEM FOR ANY REASON...(unless R's begin infiltrating the D party)

54 posted on 12/03/2013 5:27:56 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (....give war a chance.....)
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