Councilwoman Blames 'Knockout' Attacks on Tension Between Blacks and Jews

DNAInfo.com ^ | December 4, 2013 | Sonja Sharp

[freeangel]

Let me know when the first Jewish led knockout “game” happens. So the Nigs are upset that Jewish people have family and moral values?

[rmlew]

The difference being that the German Jews didn’t support the NAZIs.

I appreciate your ignorance. Jews outside of Manhattan have voted Republican in the last 7 mayoral elections. Jews as a whole voted Republican in 5 straight elections, twice against Jewish Democrats. The only groups more supportive than JEws of Joe Lhota, De Blasio's Republican opponent who lost city-wide by 40%, were White Evangelicans and Catholics.

I would be shocked if more that 10% of Jews in Crown Heights voted for de Blasio.

[SampleMan]

I appreciate your ignorance.

Yea, I'm really ignorant of Jewish voting percentages.

[rmlew]

I thought we were discussing New York City politics, which you don’t know.

[SampleMan]

I thought we were discussing New York City politics, which you don’t know.

I would never claim to be a close follower of NYC politics, but the view from 40,000 ft provides me with some rules of thumb. Tell me if I'm wrong, but Bloomberg was a NYC Republican, right? Would it be safe to say that none of your NYC Republican candidates were unashamedly pro-life, pro-individual liberty (1st, 2nd, 4th, & 5th amendments), and strong advocates of a much smaller limited government?

Given the Bloomberg example, it seems that the NYC GOP functions as an alternative method by which pseudo-socialists bypass the Democratic primaries.

If I'm wrong on that score, I'd be honestly encouraged to hear it.

[SauronOfMordor]

In NYC, the Republican party is really moderate Democrat, while the Dem party is radical Left. The Jews of NY realize that the Dems care more about blacks than Jews, so the Jews vote R, which is Dem-lite there.

[SampleMan]

Based on Bloomberg, I would not say that the GOP is “moderate Democrat”. The choice appears to be more between radical Democrats and radical Socialists.

[rmlew]

Giulliani was a NY Republican. Bloomberg is a Democrat turned Rino who purchased the Republican nomination in 2001. In 2005 and 2009 he was an independent who literally purcahsed the nomoination by bribing Republican party leaders to grant him a Wilson Pakula allowing him to run as a Republican. Still in terms of crime,taxes, and quality of life issues he ran as a continuation of Giulliani.
Are New York Republicans generally conservative? No. But they are far better than the Democrats and the Working Family Party communists.

[SampleMan]

I believe that Giulliani was a life-long Democrat until he ran for mayor.

Being hard on crime is only a good thing when its Constitutional. I do not accept “stop and frisk” as a Constitutional practice. The Soviets and fascists were very draconian on criminal enforcement, but that liberty business wasn’t a worry.

Socialism naturally leads to draconian enforcement, because socialism makes things so bad that people willingly accept the abuse to correct the problem. A very dangerous deal with the devil.

[rmlew]

It is easy to attack stop and frisk because its a lie. The policy is stop aks and frisk if warranted. There is nothing unconstitutional about police asking questions of people asking suspiciously or of trespassers.

http://www.city-journal.org/2012/eon0723hm.html
http://www.city-journal.org/2013/23_1_war-on-crime.html
http://nypost.com/2012/05/22/stop-frisk-facts/

But what do you want to do with communities that protect criminals, attack snitches, and have disproportionate crime? Would wall them off to kill each other? Or would you let them pray indiscriminately on other New Yorkers, and fantasize that this would not lead to an even more draconian response?

[SampleMan]

It is easy to attack stop and frisk because its a lie. The policy is stop aks and frisk if warranted. There is nothing unconstitutional about police asking questions of people asking suspiciously or of trespassers.

Detaining and frisking me without a warrant, because I "look suspicious", is as patently unconstitutional as it gets. Accept that and you'll accept anything.

But what do you want to do with communities that protect criminals, attack snitches, and have disproportionate crime? Would wall them off to kill each other? Or would you let them pray indiscriminately on other New Yorkers, and fantasize that this would not lead to an even more draconian response?

I'd take away their welfare and relax when they all went to work during the day and slept at night. Seems simple, doesn't it. Present that idea to the Left, and you'll discover that they consider it to be the most draconian response of all.

The velvet glove of socialism creates the social ills that makes you so willing to accept the iron fist that follows.

[trisham]

Well said.

[Eleutheria5]

Of course their success is not the success of others. One has to build successes slowly over time, starting inside one’s heart and mind, and expanding outward into industriousness, organizing, and dedication. I can see how others who do not care to build their success resent those that do. It’s the natural reaction of reactive people, called envy.

[American in Israel]

Yeah, modern Jews do support Nazi’s, right? Gasp, over half of America might be JEWS!

What is it about anti Semitic rants that remind me of dogs eating vomit and puking it up over and over. Never gets fresh and intellectual, always is just... Recycled Puke.

[SampleMan]

I didn’t say modern Jews support Nazis, I was pointing out that American Jews overwhelmingly support an antisemitic political party. I did so because it’s something I find hard to rationalize.

I would also add that blacks and women vote heavily for a party platform that does not respect them and considers them to be fundamentally lesser people.

It seems the first sacrifice to socialism is self respect.

You read a lot in my post, that just wasn’t there.

Now, would you care to address my observation factually?