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School Strip-Searches Five-Year-Old Girl Without Mother's Consent
Opposing Views ^ | 12/06/2013 | By Dominic Kelly

Posted on 12/06/2013 12:48:28 PM PST by Responsibility2nd

A Chattanooga, Tennessee mom is suing Hamilton County Schools after it was discovered that Apison Elementary School was strip-searching her five-year-old special needs daughter on a daily basis without her consent.

The young girl with special needs was diagnosed with congenital herpes while attending school, and despite being given consent to return to school by a doctor, school officials decided that they needed to check to see if the child had legions. So, for a few weeks, a school nurse would check the young girl’s body to make sure there weren’t any new outbreaks.

The girl’s mother, Brandy Madden, says she later found out about the strip search and has decided to file a lawsuit against the district because she never gave consent to the search. Madden is suing for all medical expenses, past and future, and says that the unwarranted searches caused emotional distress, suffering, and embarrassment.

The school has responded, however, claiming that the young girl, who has special needs, still wears a diaper at five years old and that the searches only occurred when the nurse changed her diaper. The statement claims that the girl was, “unable to self-toilet and was therefore dependent upon school officials to change her diaper.”

“…This child had a diminished expectation of privacy such that any routine examination that school officials may have conducted during the course of routine diaper changing would not have violated any clearly established rights of the child,” continued the school in their statement.

Madden also claims that she lost her job due to missing a number of workdays in order to deal with the situation. The lawsuit is still unresolved.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: arth; herpes; legions; legionsoflesions; publicschools; publicskools; stripsearch
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Any five year old in the roman legions may be subject to strip search


21 posted on 12/06/2013 1:00:27 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: GeronL

I seriously agree. It’s indoctrination and propaganda, and the farthest thing from real education you can get.


22 posted on 12/06/2013 1:00:55 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Whoops! Turns out that congenital herpes is a thing. It’s what they call it when the mother passes herpes to the baby as the baby is being born.


23 posted on 12/06/2013 1:01:27 PM PST by dangus
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To: Responsibility2nd

In this instance, I side with the school. When I first saw the headline, I pictured something far more public, for more unwarranted. The school has just cause to make sure, damn sure, that there have been no new outbreaks in order to protect the staff and the other students. There is an appropriate opportunity given them to have a health care professional, a nurse take a look. This is not like have a teacher publicly shame a student in front of their peers. The school stumbled in that they did not obtain permission from the Mom first. That was wrong. They may need to look at the enrollment forms and be advises by legal counsel who says the parents have already given ‘tacit or implied permission to insure the safety of their child’ by virtue of the parents signing an agreement on School Policy. That may be there only way out. The mother loves her daughter, for sure, but the school is not her enemy in this case.


24 posted on 12/06/2013 1:02:24 PM PST by lee martell
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To: AppyPappy

*If* the facts are as presented, the school’s case is lock tight....in spite of the spelling/grammar challenged author of the piece.

My SIL has worked for 30 years as a special needs teacher for just this type of child. I’ve heard a lot of stories about some of the parents. Money tree is likely a good guess.

Now, that said, my dealings with the public school system demonstrated over and over that they are congenital liars and will lie for convenience even with the truth will do just fine.


25 posted on 12/06/2013 1:04:08 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: lee martell
The mother loves her daughter, for sure

I would hope so, but I see nothing here to automatically justify that assumption.

26 posted on 12/06/2013 1:05:51 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: dangus

See, that’s what I thought. (Post 19)

The child has herpes for life, is still using a diaper at age 5, likely has many other forms of physical and developmental retardation, and the mother is looking to sue the school for all past, present and future medical expenses.

Just put the mother in jail and place the child with the state. Better for all concerned.


27 posted on 12/06/2013 1:06:58 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

The fact she lost her job tells me she thinks she has a chance of winning this lottery and used it as an excuse to get fired (unemployment).
Congenital herpes also tells me quite a bit.


28 posted on 12/06/2013 1:07:51 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: dangus

Maybe the mother was consorting with the Tenth Legion, or perhaps the French Foreign Legion.


29 posted on 12/06/2013 1:07:59 PM PST by batterycommander (a little more rubble, a lot less trouble)
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To: GeronL
From the same people who brought us “dialoguing”, “leveraging”, and other absurd uses of nouns as verbs. I seem to recall that a lot of this came from Eighties sit-coms, where it started out as a parody of how corporate types (ie Michael Fox) spoke, but was taken seriously by the dummies watching, including young future corporate types. Then it infected the rest of the English language.
30 posted on 12/06/2013 1:08:25 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: lee martell

The mother loves her daughter, for sure....

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Whiskey tango.... What kind of loving mother gives her daughter congengenital herpes?


31 posted on 12/06/2013 1:08:52 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: mrsmel

That does seem to be the case.


32 posted on 12/06/2013 1:11:43 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

What you said should be framed.

It’s at the point that ya’ gotta look at conservatives complicit in filling the public schools with their own kids.

It’s tough, I know, but God help us if we can’t rescue our own.


33 posted on 12/06/2013 1:13:02 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK

You would be surprised how many freeper think their local public schools are “different”.


34 posted on 12/06/2013 1:14:32 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: mrsmel

at least it didn’t say the girl failed to give up twinkles properly


35 posted on 12/06/2013 1:16:04 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Responsibility2nd

years ago my wife worked in daycare. In just a few months she identified 4 children who had been raped while changing their diapers.

The youngest was about 9 months and the oldest was a 13yr girl with downs syndrome.


36 posted on 12/06/2013 1:16:30 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Or the teachers could be lecherous.............


37 posted on 12/06/2013 1:16:42 PM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: AppyPappy
Congenital herpes also tells me quite a bit.

I thought the same thing, but hesitated actually saying it.

A 5 yo retarded kid that isn't potty trained is VERY retarded and has surely gotten used to other people changing her diapers. And how is a responsible person supposed change her diapers without checking for the lesions? One would think the mother would want that done. It's like saying you are supposed to wipe the poop off her butt, however you can't touch her while doing it.

38 posted on 12/06/2013 1:18:30 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: proxy_user

No, not Roman soldiers - a demon, I suppose.


39 posted on 12/06/2013 1:20:40 PM PST by bagman
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To: Responsibility2nd

Could be an adoptive mother. Benefit of the doubt. Adopted a special needs child.

Or she could be a money-grubbing slut who didn’t seek pre-natal care because she didn’t care. Truth somewhere between probably.

16% of people of child-bearing age have genital herpes. If the mother has active lesions at delivery, she should have a C-section. If there are no active lesions, there is less than 1% chance of the baby being infected according to the CDC.


40 posted on 12/06/2013 1:21:54 PM PST by heartwood
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