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'Oh you're gonna shoot me?' The sarcastic last words of straight-A student shot dead by cop ...
Daily Mail ^ | 12/08/2013 | Alex Greig

Posted on 12/09/2013 10:37:20 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

FULL TITLE: 'Oh you're gonna shoot me?' The sarcastic last words of straight-A student shot dead by college cop after being stopped for speeding

A witness says he heard the sarcastic final words of a Texas student moments before he was shot dead by a college police officer.

Robert Cameron Redus, 23, was killed when Corporal Chris Carter, 35, opened fire on him in the early hours of Friday morning a few blocks away from the University of the Incarnate Word in San Antonio where Redus studied, set to graduate in May.

Neighbour Mohammad Haidaras told My San Antonio  that he heard a tense exchange between Redus and Carter sixty seconds before shots rang out.

He told the website: 'I heard (a man) say, 'Oh, you're gonna shoot me?' like sarcastic almost.'

The 22-year-old claims he heard gunshots less than a minute later and jumped into his closet.

Investigators say an altercation began when Carter tried to pull Redus over for speeding and driving erratically. 
 

 

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cameronredus; donutwatch; lawenforcement; leo; leooutofcontrol; standingarmy; studentshooting
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To: diogenes ghost

That’s a good assumption.


121 posted on 12/09/2013 12:41:47 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Responsibility2nd

In the picture, the cop looks black to me - is that true?


122 posted on 12/09/2013 12:42:06 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Responsibility2nd

Include me in the FReeper consensus here: Sure, IF the student was truly walloping the cop with the baton, then it’d be a justifiable shooting,

BUT that seems very unlikely. Is it LIKELY that straight-A student at a religious college, even if DUI, would mouth off to a cop, grab the cop’s baton and beat the cop with it?

Or does it seem MORE likely that the cop, who knew that his dash cam was not in place, is fibbing now that the kid is dead?


123 posted on 12/09/2013 12:42:49 PM PST by pogo101
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To: Responsibility2nd
The dash cam on Carter's marked pickup truck had fallen off and officers had made arrangements to have it remounted, according to the university.

Incarnate Word, Carter and his buddies just broke the Commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor." Mighty convenient that dash cam fell off, huh. Saying, "oh, you're gonna shoot me?" after just beating a campus cop doesn't sound right. Emptying his gun into the guy shows exactly who was at fault and out of control. Lock him up and introduce him as "Officer Carter" to his cellmate.

124 posted on 12/09/2013 12:45:48 PM PST by bgill
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To: GeronL

probably thought he was a dog.


125 posted on 12/09/2013 12:47:08 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: soycd
Not exactly a good response. How about grabbing a weapon and taking cover and aim.

Aimed at what?

126 posted on 12/09/2013 12:49:09 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Arthur McGowan
People make a big deal out of cops shot in the line of duty.

If the cop has been shot it would be flags and half mast and moments of silence all around. But the other guy got shot... so nothing to see here. Move along.
127 posted on 12/09/2013 12:50:06 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Responsibility2nd

Unfortunately, Daily Mail covers more of these stories than any US Paper. While it has a lot of sensational stories, it has a LOT of stories you won’t see elsewhere and covers all the stories you see everywhere else (not the political ones as much). I look at it every day. (Not 10 times a day like I check FR!)


128 posted on 12/09/2013 12:50:42 PM PST by dan on the right
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To: dan on the right

Yep, that and Canada Free Press are great outlets to get US news the US outlets do not cover. Weird, huh?


129 posted on 12/09/2013 12:51:30 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I miss you, dad. :()
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To: Salvey
The way I read it, his crime was sarcasm of cop.

Poor kid. He forgot his sarcasm tag.


130 posted on 12/09/2013 12:54:00 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: pogo101
Or does it seem MORE likely that the cop, who knew that his dash cam was not in place, is fibbing now that the kid is dead?

It'd be interesting if the dash cam had been securely attached and working properly during his shift that day or if it fell off and was erased right before he called in the report.

131 posted on 12/09/2013 1:07:43 PM PST by bgill
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To: Responsibility2nd

Oops, I meant 10...Muh bad...


133 posted on 12/09/2013 1:11:27 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: JSDude1

Well one more example: what small town (or rural counties need armored vehicles)?

http://www.wkrg.com/story/23974459/global-transpark-to-house-surplus-armored-vehicles


134 posted on 12/09/2013 1:14:10 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: Drew68

>Aimed at what?

The entrance to your home. If I hear shooting outside my door, I’m going to be ready in case they decide to shoot at me.


135 posted on 12/09/2013 1:16:36 PM PST by soycd
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To: Responsibility2nd

http://www.ksat.com/news/uiw-student-grabbed-officers-baton-before-fatal-shooting/-/478452/23397788/-/l7flhbz/-/index.html

From the site, he’s a full fledged commissioned officer who’s dash cam’s glue was sotted by the cold snap. Even if I buy into this story, which I don’t, it doesn’t add up. There was no reason to empty his gun into the guy. From his picture, he could have sat on him. Taser? Spray? Waited for back up since the guy wasn’t going anywhere.


136 posted on 12/09/2013 1:19:49 PM PST by bgill
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To: Boogieman

I agree. Wouldn’t it come down to who has employed this “cop”? If the university then what was he doing outside his range of employment? The cop was not city paid. Seems he’d have no business off campus.


137 posted on 12/09/2013 1:44:15 PM PST by Boxsford (God Is.)
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To: driftdiver

” They all think they are
hero’s whose lives are more important
then anyone else.”

Exactly. Problem is, usually a hero is someone who decides the life of another is more important. They risk or choose death to save others. That is courage.
How much courage does it take to sacrifice innocents to protect ones self? But cops do it routinely. Like in the Dorner hunt.


138 posted on 12/09/2013 1:55:15 PM PST by LevinFan
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To: txrefugee

If it was leased college housing, then he has authority there.

If the initial contact was on campus, he has authority over that vehicle anywhere.

According to my campus PD sources, that is.


139 posted on 12/09/2013 2:04:05 PM PST by HiJinx (So, where did 2013 go?)
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To: Boogieman
because they are security guards, not “cops”. They

Do you know that for a fact? Most University police officers here in Arizona are state-trained law enforcement officers. Real cops, whether you choose to believe it or not.

140 posted on 12/09/2013 2:07:08 PM PST by HiJinx (So, where did 2013 go?)
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