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To: grundle

> If you were a 45-year-old making $50,000 per year, the survey asked, would you rather pay $3,000 a year for one of the policies offered on the healthcare exchanges, or pay a $400 fine?

I’m surprised they didn’t say a $3,000 fine. Don’t ya just love all the damn polls the liberals use to imply what they really want to say but can’t or wan’t because it would give away their true agenda?


3 posted on 12/11/2013 5:19:48 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

BTW the cost wouldn’t be $3,000 a year from what I’ve seen; it would be nearer to $5,000 or $7,000. See there they lie once again...


4 posted on 12/11/2013 5:21:44 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Understand how they termed this and you understand liberals.

$3000 a year doesn’t sound “terrible” when you’re “making $50,000 per year.” Problem with that is most kids aren’t going to be pulling down $50,000 a year. My gross income is well above $50,000, but when the IRS is done with me, I’m under $50,000. Youth today don’t understand taxes. If they were honest and asked, “If you were TAKING HOME $30,000 a year, would you rather pay 10% of your yearly net income ($3,000) or pay a fine?”

The trick here is to use large numbers compared to even larger numbers to make it seem relatively simple, but break it down and include taxes you have to pay when you’re making that much money, and it’s a much bigger piece of your pie.

Additionally, $3,000 a year comes out to $250 a month or over $115 a paycheck if you’re paid bi-weekly. Break that down even further and say that if you’re making $50k a year, that’s ~$1900 gross per paycheck (bi-weekly payout) leaving you with $1250 if you take 35% out of that check for taxes. $115 a paycheck out of $1250 is almost 10% of your pay. By comparison, most employer health insurance is similar in cost but offers MUCH more with a much lower deductible and premiums.

Finally, the lies are disturbing. We ALL know that by 2017 Obamacare’s mandate is a large chunk of your family income if you don’t buy in. As of right now, you can simply adjust your withholdings and ensure that you owe, leaving the IRS no mechanism to collect that “fine,” but in reality I think we all know that by 2017 there will be plenty of laws on the books mandating that they get their 10 pounds of flesh.


7 posted on 12/11/2013 5:45:00 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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