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EPA Pushes Gun Control Through Green Ammo Mandate
Investor's Business Daily ^ | December 27, 2013 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 12/27/2013 9:36:07 AM PST by raptor22

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To: OneWingedShark

Thanks for the reminder.

Believe it or not, the public school I attended made it mandatory for every student to memorize that whole thing as they passed through the 8th grade.

I hadn’t tried to recite it in many a year, but as soon as I started reading it, it came back to me.

Thanks for posting it here as a reminder to all who read it.


41 posted on 12/28/2013 1:05:37 AM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: basil
To be fair, I didn't post the whole Declaration.
But it is kind of odd that they'd drop its memorization from being mandatory... unless you ascribe to the notion that "public education" isn't about education.

From John Gatto's How Public Education Cripples Our Kids, and Why:

  1. The adjustive or adaptive function.
    Schools are to establish fixed habits of reaction to authority. This, of course, precludes critical judgment completely. It also pretty much destroys the idea that useful or interesting material should be taught, because you can't test for reflexive obedience until you know whether you can make kids learn, and do, foolish and boring things.
  2. The integrating function.
    This might well be called "the conformity function," because its intention is to make children as alike as possible. People who conform are predictable, and this is of great use to those who wish to harness and manipulate a large labor force.
  3. The diagnostic and directive function.
    School is meant to determine each student's proper social role. This is done by logging evidence mathematically and anecdotally on cumulative records. As in "your permanent record." Yes, you do have one.
  4. The differentiating function.
    Once their social role has been "diagnosed," children are to be sorted by role and trained only so far as their destination in the social machine merits - and not one step further. So much for making kids their personal best.
  5. The selective function.
    This refers not to human choice at all but to Darwin's theory of natural selection as applied to what he called "favored races." In short, the idea is to help things along by consciously attempting to improve the breeding stock. Schools are meant to tag the unfit - with poor grades, remedial placement, and other punishments - clearly enough that their peers will accept them as inferior and effectively bar them from the reproductive sweepstakes. That's what all those little humiliations from first grade onward were intended to do: wash the dirt down the drain.
  6. The propaedeutic function.
    The societal system implied by these rules will require an elite group of caretakers. To that end, a small fraction of the kids will quietly be taught how to manage this continuing project, how to watch over and control a population deliberately dumbed down and declawed in order that government might proceed unchallenged and corporations might never want for obedient labor.
Judging from society's reactions to Fast & Furious; NSA-spying; the existence of the TSA, the BATFE, and DEA; Benghazi; whimsical Obamacare changes; government agents literally exempting themselves from laws; and so forth... even if you don't believe the above you should pause and give it some thought.
42 posted on 12/28/2013 10:25:55 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: dangerdoc

What other materials could bullets be made out of if lead isn’t available?


43 posted on 12/28/2013 12:00:46 PM PST by tbw2
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To: G Larry

“The next “American President” needs to repeal all EPA regulations issue since Jan. 2008.”

The next “American President” needs to repeal all EPA regulations ever issued and abolish the EPA.

There, fixed it.


44 posted on 12/28/2013 12:23:29 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: tbw2

Can or may?

You could copper clad just about any metal and fire it. Legally? It gets tricky and I am not fully familiar with the law, I’m pretty sure steel and bronze were made illegal, never mind I’ll just google it....

“Armor-piercing ammunition, sometimes referred to as metal-piercing ammunition, is ammunition that is designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor, including body armor commonly worn by police officers. Under federal law, armor-piercing ammunition is defined as any projectile or projectile core that may be used in a handgun and that is constructed entirely from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium.15 In addition, armor-piercing ammunition is defined as a full jacketed projectile “larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.” Id. The Attorney General is required to furnish information to each licensed dealer defining which projectiles are considered armor-piercing ammunition as defined in 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(17)(B).16”

Now that certainly cleared things up. :(


45 posted on 12/28/2013 3:47:35 PM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: raptor22

Abolish the EPA. Just get rid of it, lock, stock, and barrel.


46 posted on 12/28/2013 5:37:23 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Joe Brower
What a shame I can't pull up my post from so long ago...Can't take your guns, we'll control the Ammo

Some of us saw this coming over a decade ago.

47 posted on 12/29/2013 12:22:04 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: dangerdoc

Notice it only applies to handguns.


48 posted on 12/29/2013 12:23:31 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Or ammo that can be used in handguns.

How many rifle calibers were chambered in the Contender handguns? I have a feeling that will come back to haunt people trying to develop alternative ammo.


49 posted on 12/29/2013 3:53:44 PM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: philman_36

Calibers available for the Contender were initially limited, stopping just short of the .308 Winchester-class rifle cartridges. However, almost any cartridge from .22 Long Rifle up to the .30-30 Winchester is acceptable, as long as a peak pressure of 48,000 CUP is not exceeded. This flexibility prompted a boom in the development of wildcat cartridges suitable for the Contender, such as the 7-30 Waters and .357 Herrett and the various TCU cartridges, most of which were commonly based on either the widely available .30-30 Winchester or .223 Remington cases. The largest factory caliber offered for the Contender was the .45-70, which, although a much larger case than the .308, is still feasible because of the relatively low cartridge pressures of the original black-powder round relative to the limits of the bolt face of the Contender receiver. Custom gunmakers also have added to the selection, such as the J. D. Jones line of JDJ cartridges based on the .225 Winchester and .444 Marlin. Other barrel makers pushed beyond the limits the factory set, and chambered Contender barrels in lighter .308-class cartridges like the .243 Winchester. The Contender can also fire .410 bore shotgun shells, either through the .45 Colt/.410 barrel or through a special 21-inch (530 mm) smoothbore shotgun barrel. A ported, rifled, .44 Magnum barrel was also made available for use with shotshell cartridges in a removable-choke .44 Magnum barrel, with the choke being used to unspin the shot from the barrel rifling, or, by removing the choke, for use with standard .44 Magnum cartridges. The degree of flexibility provided by the Contender design is unique for experimenting with new cartridges, handloads, barrel lengths, and shotshells.


50 posted on 12/29/2013 3:58:59 PM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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