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The “Mommy Wars” Are Over
Townhall.com ^ | December 30, 2013 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 12/30/2013 5:09:11 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
There are other ways to look at this picture. In the late 1990s, my wife and I were making about $75K each. Yet between taxes, daycare, private school, and the extra costs due to one of us working, we were netting $10K on the effort. I realized that home-schooling the girls would produce students for which colleges would pay, IOW that we would end up saving money if one of us quit. The choice was for me to stay home, teach the girls, write books, and take care of the land and the house I'd built. We saved money, especially considering that the stresses of the situation had us headed for a divorce, which would have ruined all that we had managed to acquire. Of the two girls, one went to Stanford on a substantial scholarship, the other will graduate summa cum laude at Utah State at the age of 20 and is actually making money going to school. IOW, it worked.

The bigger the family, the cheaper it is for mom to stay home and teach. If she is a professional, telecommuting can often bring her additional income. It is accepting the chains of liberalism that is so costly. Don't.

21 posted on 12/30/2013 7:23:52 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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To: yldstrk

“real chauvinistic” I’ll grant...


22 posted on 12/30/2013 7:24:12 AM PST by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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To: papertyger

Some real men haters on this thread.

Apparently made some really bad choices and now think all women make equally bad choices.


23 posted on 12/30/2013 7:29:32 AM PST by Eaker (Sweat dries, blood clots and bones heal so suck it up buttercup.)
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To: FXRP

Exactly. My wife home schools and actively manages the household. In 2011, I made around $54,000 for five people. My children lacked for nothing and some how we managed to spend two weeks in Daytona and three days at Disney without going into to debt.

Everything is about priorities and proper management.


24 posted on 12/30/2013 7:36:24 AM PST by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: goodwithagun

Obama killed my “retirement” (savings). I will probably be working till the day I die now while he sips on margaritas from his vacation home in HI with his homo buddy, Reggie, sitting on his lap.


25 posted on 12/30/2013 7:38:19 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Eaker

If all the troubled marriages I’ve known of, only one was because the guy was a real POS.

The rest were due to wives rationalizing their expectations, preferences, and wants, then attacking the husband for not agreeing to them.


26 posted on 12/30/2013 7:45:42 AM PST by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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To: Kaslin

If a career woman can’t find time for a child she sure as hell can’t find time for you I would never trust one.


27 posted on 12/30/2013 7:49:08 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: rarestia; jsanders2001

I have thought for a long time that a significant, but unspoken reason, that “everyone” wanted women to work instead of staying home is that a second income provides not only money to the family, but income taxes to feed liberals’ favorite programs.


28 posted on 12/30/2013 8:00:48 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: Tax-chick

One of the big shifts I think in the “Mommy Wars” is the rise of online home businesses, freelancing, contract work and part time employment in general.
The ideal family model is now mom working part time. For lower class women, part time work generates income while still letting her keep EITC and other “welfare benefits”. For middle and upper-class women, part time work gives you the ability to contribute financially to the household without the stress of a full time job and often lower childcare costs.
Another shift is the acceptability of on-ramp and off-ramp careers. Have a kid, take a year or two off, come back to work. You’re at home when they are littlest, but you don’t drop out of the workforce for 20 years.


29 posted on 12/30/2013 8:01:17 AM PST by tbw2
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To: Hardastarboard

We ran some tax scenarios with my accountant and found that if my wife chose to quit her job and stay home being house frau, we would actually have MORE money than we do at present since we would keep more of our taxes in the long run.

People want that more immediate gratification even if the end result is less.


30 posted on 12/30/2013 8:02:48 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Kaslin

Another problem in the mix is the constant drumbeat over ‘Equal Pay For Equal Work”.

Many of the women in today’s work force were raised under the NOW banner & they firmly believe that ‘equal work’ can be measured and quantified in the white collar jobs. I say it cannot.

Unless you are making widgets & there is an actual count of your hourly/daily/weekly production of widgets, there is no accurate way to quantify the ‘equal work’ portion of the formula.

I have worked in both blue collar & white collar jobs, and I have been a full charge bookkeeper for the majority of my life. I still have clients. I have worked for a number of small businesses as a self-employed person. I have seen up close & financially how much a small business struggles to make ends meet & have profits for growth.

Then there is the age old problem of ‘working’ women who want to take off for trips to the doctor or to the dentist for their offspring. The dad rarely takes time off, but the women are gone with nary a thought as to how that absence affects the workplace & who might have to make up the workload she has left behind to tend to her ‘little ones’. Then, when promotions are being considered, the women get left behind because they are not dependable to be there 8+ hours a day & to put their loyalty into the company where they want such Equal Pay ahead of their children.

I say-—have kids, and be prepared to not get promoted until they are 20 & out of the house. Until then, I cannot DEPEND on you as an employee 52 weeks a year & whenever there is any kind of work crunch which has an unmoveable deadline. You will beg off because of ‘the kids’.

I cannot ascertain exactly how YOUR work is EQUAL on a apples to apples basis, since you are gone at random times all year long—for the kids. What you also don’t realize with YOUR absence is that those who don’t have kids had to work harder or stay longer to cover the work you left behind when it all HAD TO GET DONE in a timely manner. You don’t realize one little bit how angry those people are at YOU, when you are all on a equal pay scale & YOU are NOT pulling your fair part of the wagon load.

In short—THEY CANNOT HAVE IT ALL!!!


31 posted on 12/30/2013 8:06:27 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: MrB

If one father wasn’t supporting his family and 3 other families,
both parents wouldn’t have to work.”””

PERFECTLY SAID!!!!


32 posted on 12/30/2013 8:07:23 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: yldstrk

What an odd statement.

Seems you are painting with a rather broad brush there.


33 posted on 12/30/2013 8:10:35 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Wishing all a very Merry Christmas)
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To: papertyger

Of all the marriages I have known to fail, the men were addicted to porn.


34 posted on 12/30/2013 8:15:22 AM PST by wintertime
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

If you know of some good responsible men please tell


35 posted on 12/30/2013 8:19:05 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: rarestia

Good post. Many are obsessed with buying the latest “stuff”, be it cars, a “better” house or latest gadgetry for themselves or their children.

Rather than living frugally and not expecting, when (not if but when) a financial crisis occurs either from an act of God or loss of employment, it’s assumed by such people it’s everyone else’s responsibility to bail them out.


36 posted on 12/30/2013 8:20:31 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Hardastarboard

Been on that same page for a long time. I have always thought that the government engineered our economy to force the “other half” of the population into the work force for a much more efficient fleecing operation to feed the beast.


37 posted on 12/30/2013 8:39:53 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: ridesthemiles

The problem with “having it all” is that the timeframe for building a career coincides with the timeframe of a woman’s fertility.

Even if she goes ahead and has kids and puts them in daycare,
she’s not “having it all”, because kids raised by others aren’t really your kids.


38 posted on 12/30/2013 8:42:49 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rarestia
It's DIFFICULT, but it's not impossible.

Absolutely true. We did it; but, we weren't taking any vacations either. I cooked all the meals and we had dinners that corresponded to what was on sale at the stores that week. I always shopped sales for the kid's clothing as well. Yes, it was difficult; but, I had my first child at age 29, the second at 33. I'd been in the workforce since age 16 and I really wanted to spend time with my babies. I have never regretted it. I looked at it this way: A little more money; or, seeing my child take their first step; not having a babysitter call me on the phone to tell me about it.

39 posted on 12/30/2013 8:49:23 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: yldstrk

Well, I’m not a “fleshy sex fiend”.

Part of the reason there is so much obsession with sex is because of the constant advertising using sex to sell (much less Viagra type ads these days.). Not to mention the objectification of women that has been pervasive throughout centuries. It’s not the greatest reason but it’s a reason.

Humanity has supplanted everyone’s desire for Christ with many things including sex. This is where the true destiny for humanity lies. In Christ, the role of mother is fully realized in every woman (and father, every man).

The feminists were right about men objectifying women throughout time, except for many notable incidents throughout, as a general rule, women were viewed (and still, to a lesser extent) by men as baby factories or tools to “relieve frustration”. Or both.

This isn’t to say that every, or even most men mistreated their wives, just that any idea of women earning money for the family would have been met with derision. The point is experience has shown that it’s important for every family with children to have one parent at home, the other bringing money home.

One could argue that this is only the male role, but such an argument would rest solely on evolutionary statements or traditional roles, both of which are reductions of humanity. Reducing us to animals only (the evolutionary argument) or slaves to tradition minus reason. Just because it’s “always been done that way” is a reductionist argument divorced from reason.

But like all human centered ideas, we went from one extreme to another.

Unfortunately for the feminists (or maybe fortunately, as maybe this was their plan all along), they turned the view of a woman from being familial/sexual slaves into being slaves of money. One objectification for another.

It’s only in realizing we all, in our true unbridled humanity, have an infinite desire for everything, that we can fully come to realize Christ is the only, and real, answer to everything that ails us. He doesn’t take away all our problems or solve them with a wave of His hand. He accompanies is on our journey, which is what we really want anyway.

When a person realizes this about themselves, when one realizes we are made for the infinite and therefore Christ is the only answer for our infinite desire, the burdens of life become lighter, and all of our obsessions, including sex, melt away like a candle under the light of His Love we run to with open arms, as a child who wishes to rest in his father’s love.


40 posted on 12/30/2013 8:53:59 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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