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NTSB: Hawaii plane floated 25 mins, then sank.
AP via Star Advertiser ^ | Dec 31, 2013 | AP via Star Advertiser

Posted on 01/01/2014 3:18:25 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo

The National Transportation Safety Board says in a preliminary accident report that a small commercial plane that crash-landed in Hawaii waters floated for about 25 minutes before sinking.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: alicedewey; alicedeweybio; birthcertificate; certifigate; fuddy; hawaii; industrialdemocracy; lid; naturalborncitizen; subud
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To: BenLurkin
Thought maybe the Wikipedia article on her might give an answer to that — but there is NO Wikipedia article for Loretta Fuddy. Is it just me — or does that seem very odd?

You're right and it does seem odd to me too.

61 posted on 01/02/2014 4:02:41 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: justiceseeker93

http://subudgreaterseattle.com/mourning-deliana-fuddy/

Mourning Deliana Fuddy
By Paul On December 12, 2013 · 1 Comment ....From Subud USA:

December 12, 2013
Dear Brothers and Sisters,

Our dear sister, Deliana Loretta Fuddy, died yesterday in a plane crash one half mile off the coast of Molokai, Hawaii. The plane was en route to Honolulu. Many of us knew Deliana as the Chairperson of Subud USA from 2006 to 2008.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Subuh_Sumohadiwidjojo

Muhammad Subuh SumohadiwidjojoFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo (born 1901 in Java, Indonesia; died 1987). As a young man Muhammad Subuh who received a series of intense experiences that he believed gave him contact with a spiritual energy from a higher power. By the 1930s, he believed that it was his task to transmit this energy - which he called latihan kejiwaan (Indonesian for “spiritual exercise”) - to others, but that he was not to seek people out but simply to wait for those who asked for it.

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And today, Alice Dewey, the great Indonesianist, as she liked to call herself, who spent something like 15 years on and off in Java as an anthropologist, researching javanese arts and crafts, and peasant marketing...Alice, the mentor of Stanley Ann Dunham who wrote her thesis (?) on the subject of Javanese blacksmithing...now lives permanently in Indonesia. Are we beginning to see connections yet?

http://www.anthropology.hawaii.edu/people/emeritus/Dewey/index.html


62 posted on 01/02/2014 4:34:49 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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I think it's a fair question to ask if she also might have been a member of Subud.
63 posted on 01/02/2014 4:52:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Brown Deer
[PDF]Page 1 A Singular Woman The Untold Story of Barack Obama's ...pulver.co.uk:18080/get/pdf/9409 Mar 18, 2008 - Mohammad Mansur Medeiros, a reclusive and scholarly. Subud member from Fall River, Massachusetts, and Harvard, whom Ann hired as a ...

whilst wondering if there was a SUBUD - Fuddy - Alice Dewey connection, Google shows the above, but the link won't open.

GOOGLE PAGE

Need to find the relative pages in A SINGULAR WOMAN, funny that, Fuddy being related to zero by marriage and all...

64 posted on 01/02/2014 5:37:04 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: justiceseeker93; Brown Deer
Ann Soetoro maintained close connections with Subud and her own religious beliefs match those of the Subud to a tee. Janny Scott’s book, A Singular Woman, provides a unique insight into Ann’s religious beliefs, which tend more to Subud beliefs than her own Unitarian upbringing. First, Ann Soetoro encountered Subuh members while working for the Institute for Management and Education and Development, while under a grant from the Ford Foundation, in 1971. She hired members of the Subud, who lived in the International Subud Center compound in the Jakarta suburb of Cilandak, to teach intensive courses in business English. Second, given her residence in the north coast Java port city of Semarang, Bapak’s hometown and base, from 1978 to 1980, it is inconceivable that Ann Soetoro was unaware of Bapak and his movement.

Third, Bapak and his Subud followers were well-entrenched at the East-West Center at the University of Hawaii, where Ann Dunham Soetoro met her Kenyan and Indonesian husbands.

Even Kenya was not unknown to Subud missionaries. Subud conversion missions set out from Indonesia in the early 1960s to Kenya, Swaziland, and Northern and Southern Rhodesia.

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isn't that interesting...

source

65 posted on 01/02/2014 5:48:16 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks; mhking

Just d-mn!


66 posted on 01/02/2014 5:51:01 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Fred Nerks

This just gets curiouser and curiouser.


67 posted on 01/02/2014 5:53:27 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Jane Long
What happens in Hawaii, stays in Hawaii.

Granny knows all about that.

Loose ends get nipped.

68 posted on 01/02/2014 5:56:12 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: GeronL

What if one of the passengers was a sleeper agent that helped Fuddy drink of the deep? Passenger manifest? Anyone? Has the autopsy been completed and... if so, the results released?


69 posted on 01/02/2014 6:00:11 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: TADSLOS

One thing always leads to another.


70 posted on 01/02/2014 6:01:40 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: freepersup

And I was about to head out the door, when this popped up. You wanted to do some sleuthing, so I’ll leave it to you, can you see them all in the same pot? Fuddy and Alice and that little girl from Kansas, working out in 1963 how they were going to shift the little zero to Indonesia? Remember, Lolo was a foreign student at the East West Centre...

have fun, I’m off.


71 posted on 01/02/2014 6:05:18 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Roger-

Great! Cheerleading’s easy- now I’ve gotta’ go to work.

I swear, as things get scrubbed, other things seemingly reappear faster... perhaps there are friends in deep cover?

The degrees of connection being discovered are truly amazing, yet (now) make perfect sense. Wow!

Big shoes to fill... mumbling... putting on a pot of coffee... mumbling... checking the Rolodex for some contacts... mumbling... wrapping fingers on the desk... mumbling... chewing on a pencil... mumbling...

Boatswain’s Mate! Sound the Pipe! CPO! Lower the gangway! Good luck detective!


72 posted on 01/02/2014 6:48:26 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: Chode

73 posted on 01/02/2014 6:50:51 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: freepersup
blank post...
74 posted on 01/02/2014 7:08:51 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: justiceseeker93

Wonder if the medical examiner will die suddenly like in the Breitbart case?


75 posted on 01/02/2014 7:10:52 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Venturer
Has the coroner said what she died of yet?

Vexatious politics?

-PJ

76 posted on 01/02/2014 7:19:03 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Chode

You can’t see the image with at least one of those eyes eyes eyes? I just closed my browser and reopened it, and I’ve got a Cessna Caravan in the water, top side up, off Molokai, compliments of kitv.com. Just checked my pings page and it’s there too. I see it on the thread... so... try... refreshing... your... window???


77 posted on 01/02/2014 7:24:18 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: MinuteGal

Yikes...there’s a bottomless pit in CC. :-O


78 posted on 01/02/2014 7:27:48 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: freepersup

I just see a blue box with a tiny, white question mark inside of it. No Cessna, no water, nada.


79 posted on 01/02/2014 7:29:39 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: freepersup
prolly my browser setting but i finally got it... yup, looks like a whole plane to me

80 posted on 01/02/2014 7:33:49 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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