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Obamacare Confusion Reigns as Frustrated Patients Walk Out of Hospitals Without Treatment
The U.K. Daily Mail ^ | Thursday, January 2, 2014 | David Martosko

Posted on 01/02/2014 3:06:08 PM PST by kristinn

Hospital staff in Northern Virginia are turning away sick people on a frigid Thursday morning because they can't determine whether their Obamacare insurance plans are in effect.

Patients in a close-in DC suburb who think they've signed up for new insurance plans are struggling to show their December enrollments are in force, and health care administrators aren't taking their word for it.

In place of quick service and painless billing, these Virginians are now facing the threat of sticker-shock that comes with bills they can't afford.

'They had no idea if my insurance was active or not!' a coughing Maria Galvez told MailOnline outside the Inova Healthplex facility in the town of Springfield.

She was leaving the building without getting a needed chest x-ray.

'The people in there told me that since I didn't have an insurance card, I would be billed for the whole cost of the x-ray,' Galvez said, her young daughter in tow. 'It's not fair – you know, I signed up last week like I was supposed to.'

The x-ray's cost, she was told, would likely be more than $500.

Galvez said she enrolled in a Carefirst Blue Cross bronze plan at a cost of about $450 per month through healthcare.gov, three days before Christmas.

'No one has sent me a bill,' she said.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius testified in a December 11 congressional hearing that the federal government can't say how many new enrollees have written checks for their first month's premiums.

'Some may have paid, some may have not,' she conceded.

It's unlikely that a valid insurance card would have changed Galvez' fortunes, however.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: jsanders2001

Yes. I feel their pain and it feels great!


101 posted on 01/02/2014 4:45:55 PM PST by rcofdayton (.)
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To: kristinn
SUCKERS!
102 posted on 01/02/2014 4:49:12 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: kristinn

103 posted on 01/02/2014 4:53:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: xzins

it isnot a full 100% after deductible, it’s 70/30 or 80/20, and all plans have co-pays split like this for procedures and meds.


104 posted on 01/02/2014 4:58:56 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: kristinn
dumb boobs it takes more then a week for the ins co to verify who you are and bill premium and issue a card. so tuff toe nails you sign up by christmas and try to use said ions on jan 2...
105 posted on 01/02/2014 4:59:29 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: freeangel

“Maybe, that the us taxpayers would be picking up the first 4500, too?”

Well, uhhh...yeah...


106 posted on 01/02/2014 5:01:53 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Secret Agent Man; kristinn

107 posted on 01/02/2014 5:01:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
given obamacare plan deductibles are HUGE and you have to pay all of that first before the plans pay anything.

They will soon figure out they only need to ring up the deductible amount before insurance kicks in, not actually pay it. A 24 hour hospital stay will get them there.

108 posted on 01/02/2014 5:02:34 PM PST by Reeses
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To: RKBA Democrat

their basic care for small accidents and such over there is fast, excellent and inexpensive.

something we don’t have here and won’t under commiecare-less.


109 posted on 01/02/2014 5:03:36 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Here is a zoomed in pic of the valets ...


110 posted on 01/02/2014 5:08:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Actually the main reason for overpricing is the SCOTUS ruling that said hospitals had to give services to illegals. From that time on illegals used the ER instead of using a doctor who could have turned them away. Hospitals required to treat indigents then passed those costs on to people who paid.


111 posted on 01/02/2014 5:10:15 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: PowderMonkey

112 posted on 01/02/2014 5:14:56 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: kristinn

Jiminy Cricket! Ms. Galvez probably does not realize that the cost of her Bronze policy is really more like $910.00 a month if it’s a self-only policy because she has a $5,500 deductible before she receives ANY benefits. ($5,500/12 = $458.33!) If it’s for a family of four, the monthly cost before receiving ANY benefits is more like $2,290.00! Add another $460.00 for each of the other three people on the plan. That’s a lot of money for nothing but catastrophic coverage.

Since Ms. Galvez sought treatment in Alexandria, Virginia, she probably voted for Obama to rob her, and she probably thinks it is the Republicans who are robbing her!


113 posted on 01/02/2014 5:19:23 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: Christian1

“...Sorry, could be my eye-sight,,,,but on the picture is Barak Hussein shi.ting golf balls?,,,,”

Yeah. That be the boy! Racist POS too....he only craps out white balls!!!


114 posted on 01/02/2014 5:25:34 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
They’re going to be even more shocked when they get their insurance cards and will hear about, for the first time, about the deductible.

I would think that substantial number of these LIVs don't have the reading comprehension skills to understand what a deductible is.

115 posted on 01/02/2014 5:28:56 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: tennmountainman

“...I think we are seeing the beginning of the end for a lot of Americans....”

I think you’re right. IF it were limited to the LIVs, it wouldn’t be that bad for the country at all, almost welcome actually. Unfortunately, it’s not gonna work that way.


116 posted on 01/02/2014 5:30:38 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: OldPossum
"I would think that substantial number of these LIVs don't have the reading comprehension skills to understand what a deductible is."

Sad but true. Somehow it will be explained in the MSM that the deductibles under Obamacare are due to conservatives and the tea party.

117 posted on 01/02/2014 5:32:25 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: VerySadAmerican
Before obamacare the hospitals would treat anyone. Apparently now that EVERYONE is supposed to have insurance the hospitals no longer believe they have to provide free healthcare.

No, I believe the article is misleading. The hospital did not turn her away. She chose to leave once she heard the price for x-ray.

118 posted on 01/02/2014 5:33:30 PM PST by alnick
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To: kristinn

Hey all you hope and change democrat rat voting dummies ..... PETCO sells antibiotics for flipper and fluffy on aisle 6.

.....


119 posted on 01/02/2014 5:33:48 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: rcofdayton

Reps tried tried whispering in the ear of john and jane q public and it didn’t work, now they need a punch in the face and they are fixing to get it....


120 posted on 01/02/2014 5:36:03 PM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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