Posted on 01/03/2014 6:25:56 AM PST by Poundstone
For the record those who suffer disabilities (real) and amputations, etc should be compensated the rest of their lives. However there is about as much fraud in the after Active Duty “disability classification” as there is in the civilian sector SS Disability programs!
Vice Admiral Norbert Ryan: "This program that the Congress did in the backroom is even worse than that. It doesn't grandfather the currently serving to start with, which is a broken promise from the past secretary, Secretary Panetta, and the current chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who both said you should grandfather any changes to the retirement system."
Agree completely, Texican!
And Retired Vets with spouses, when the income is all totaled will not qualify for health care. Hubby was told that because he has a Navy pension, SS and my SS he made TO MUCH MONEY to qualify for VA health care.
He has applied for VA disability, he has hearing loss from being on the flight deck so much, and retinitis from the cleaning chems that left holes in his vision.
You forgot to add we will be forced to use Express Scripts for our meds. They suck. I don’t like the idea I won’t know from order to order which country or which manufacture my meds are coming from, as I am a very high drug sensitive person. And then there is the UPS just throwing your meds up on your porch for any one to steal. Might be ok in country areas but not in big cities like Memphis where nothing that is not chained down is stolen.
Yeah, they are cutting military retirement so they can raid the trust fund and spend it on illegals...except the spending on illegals is 7 times greater than what they will “save”. When they start cutting funding for illegals, or reduce the rate of growth in Education Administrators, then I’ll believe this has something to do with reducing the budget.
Right now, this is buying votes for democrats by attacking those the democrats hate - the military!
My next door neighbor is away a lot so we have to get his meds and keep them in the fridge until they come home. Insulin and stuff like that that needs refrigeration they just put it on the porch in 90° heat............
Only 8 out of the 58 are military people.
And those 8 are mostly from the rare leftists in the military, like Admiral Fallon, a friend of Red China.
“Fact is there are few civilian occupations that pay a High School graduate with two years experience $50,000 a year.”
What military personnel with 2 years in are making $50K a year?
Vets over the years have been promised lots of things. It never kept the DC cockroaches from reneging though. In the event the vets force the issue the standing army is all too willing to shoot them at the behest of the cockroaches.
How about false welfare and Medicaid recipients ?
“Screw the troops so the Pentagon can buy new toys, eh?”
You don’t know what you are talking about.
Those “new toys” are what keeps those troops alive and well when the world starts to go to hell. I have a feeling you’re still not driving your 56 Studebaker.
You have fallen for the liberals’ trap - make the defense budget a fight between the military personnel and the military equipment procurement, not between the military as a whole and the welfare state that military cuts are financing.
I was raised in Hickory Flat, Mississippi, 69 miles from there..................
“Today these folks are government employees who wear uniforms at work.”
BTW - this retired officer spent the last 15 years of his 25 deploying to places like Saudi Arabia roughly 6 months of each year. My last combat tour was at 49, in Afghanistan. During my first 10 years in, I spent 8 years overseas. How many “government employees” have their daughter get excited on her 12th birthday because it is the first time Daddy will be home during her birthday?
Source please, I don't believe this statement has any merit.
“Something’s got to be done about military compensation. It’s eating up half of the total DOD budget, and the percentage is going up.”
I do believe that this includes all the salaries, TriCare, housing, etc of active duty troops. They’re presenting it as if our vets are eating the budget and that’s just not true.
This article says that compensation has doubled in the last ten years. That may be true, but people forget where we were ten years ago. Clinton had put us on a -1% of COL for years during the drawdown in the 90’s and military pay was way below their civilian counterparts. It was getting difficult to keep people in.
Bush came in in 2000, but we didn’t see any changes until late 2002. For the next few years, he brought military pay back up to where it was before Clinton’s mischief.
In the meantime, military retirement and insurance has been a low hanging fruit that has been plucked over and over again. TFL was free at one point. Then they started the fees. Then kicking people off Prime and forcing them onto Standard with a 20% copay.
So saying that it’s gone up so much over the last ten years isn’t taking into account what the military was just coming out of. Clinton really screwed the military and the increase was a recovery. They need to talk about what it’s been doing for the last 20 years to see a real trend.
Let these "insiders" out themselves, if what they're claiming is factual. Is what they claim true or are they just more Administration stooges that claimed we needed "more women in combat, openly homosexuals serving," etc.?
Nope, I'm not biting in this one as I know for a fact that some of the most liberal weenies are Pentagon desk Generals!
There are many places to cut salaries, pensions and benefits, IRS for starters, State Department a great second, and keep going on down agency after agency!
“For example that is why some folks leaving Active Duty, they “can’t get a job”. Fact is there are few civilian occupations that pay a High School graduate with two years experience $50,000 a year.”
A 43 year old man who’s spent 22 years breaking his body cannot do those jobs the way a young man can.
Here is another reason it went up: During my tour in Afghanistan in 2007, some of the guys I was with were on their 4th combat tour to the Middle East. They had essentially lived in the ME since 2003.
My son-in-law did 2 tours in Marine Infantry in Fallujah. He got out because he wasn’t willing to live in Iraq...
The folks complaining about military pay right now weren’t quite so upset when we were spending more time deployed than home. Maybe some of those complaining ought to spend a year at Kunsan, or share latrines in some forsaken rathole of mud and filth before they decide to cut retirement so they can keep spending 7 times as much on tax refunds to illegals who don’t pay taxes...
You are agreeing with someone who has posted what is essentially an exageration of gross proportions......”Fact is there are few civilian occupations that pay a High School graduate with two years experience $50,000 a year.”...
but then I’m not at all surprised as you were one who was doing a lot of hand wringing over the sequester. And the civilians all got paid, didn’t lose a dime.
I’m sorry, but I find more and more that most, if not all CS employees are quite disingenuous as it relates to this military only cut or reduction...sitting squarely against the military. Some sort of vindictiveness or jealousy?
I saw it many times in my 20 years, some REMF CS pukes would literally crap on the active duty folks if given half a chance...many made life completely miserable for me and my troops and I hated them with every fiber of my being for it...to this day, even as a military retiree, REMF CS pukes need to EARN any amount of consideration or respect from me before one ounce or iota is given...I don’t trust a one.
Any reduction in Military benefits should be met by the reduction at a 2:1 ratio... of ALL Federal employees... including ALL elected and appointed positions... or leave the Military alone!
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